Camaro gets a refresh after 1year.

BobDigi5060

Aren't you the guy that traded your Z for an SS? How's it holding up? Isn't the visibility worse than the Z? I enjoyed that thread, but couldn't find it just now.

Never got around to owning a Z, but I have a 4runner, G37X for the wife, and 03 G35 for my daily driving. As much as I like the Z, I can't justify trading my G37X for one. I plan on keeping both Gs as the 03 is fun and not worth much and getting a 6th gen Camaro or Corvette.

Anyways, I like this new design. As ridiculous as the 2018 looked, there are uglier cars out there (Alpha Romeos for exmaple).

UNKNOWN_370

Yeah I did. It's holding up way better than I thought it would. No creaks or rattles. No orange peel in the paint. The underbody is clad with shielding and bracing. And that's just the regular SS. (Though I have a 1LE suspension upgrade) The brakes are solid... The handling is just shocking. I'm 20k miles in an I am just blown away at how I can take corners and hit chicanes. It's light on it's feet for what it is... Hard to imagine putting ZL1 power to use. Stock power is already pretty ridiculous. I get 30mpg on highway when on cruise. About 16mpg in town driving semi aggressive. And visibility is EXACTLY like the Z. No different. There are improvents to visibility from the last gen car. Also the rear feels smaller than the camaro 5. So you have a better sense of where the azs is in traffic. If you position all the mirrors in the same fashion as the Z you can see everything behind you. BSM is also a reliable and excellent feature to help mitigate blind spot insecurity. My biggest gripe is the plastic is easy to scratch n the cell phone charger is bullshyt. Other than that... I'm thoroughly impressed. It really drives like a Z except faster with an adrenaline rush level of torque. The camaro bucks hard with torque in gears 2 thru 4at around 3000rpm range. If torque scares you shift AR 2k or 4k. Cuz 3k will push your back into your seat. At WOT. The transmission sounds like a DCT. The shift speed is unbelievable. But at the paddle there's a slight lag between your pull and shift response. But the upshift sound and transition is exactly like a dual clutch. I think I need to upgrade the transmission wire gauge to get a better paddle to shift reaction. I fixed the same problem in the Z with the same mod.

The only thing I miss about the Z is the size and uniqueness. But the SS and ZL1 crew is a lot smaller than the turbo and v6 crew. So in the camaro world we're not an everyday sight. Especially a ZL1. That's hella exclusive and when I see ONE in the wild I get a hard on. It just looks like such a beast. But if I ever bought a ZL1? It'll be because of looks! I'm really satisfied with 460hp. And I have plans for full bolt ins soon? So it will be around 550hp when I'm done. That's plenty enough.

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markesc

ZL-1 for $45k used > this new supra.

ZL-1 has all the cooling setup from the factory, unlike how the Z lacks cooling, and the new supra will need cooling upgrades once people start tuning them.

zeeder

It seems to me that the ZL1 coolers are the exact same as tuners adding them to the Supra. The ZL1 is a factory tuner car, after all.

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