Unimpressed by the 400z

TaroBaapG35

Yea and that's the main reason why so many people push away from the Z cars, since they want the newest thing regardless of the lineage/following/culture.

Which is why the following on the Civic Type R is so expansive right now; Before that, the Civic SI was the only 2door MT you could get from Honda. Mazda was...nothing (RX-8 doesn't count), Subaru had only the STI before the BRZ/GT86 Twins (pretty much the only thing that saved Toyota from still being a contender for a 2door sports car), and the other Japanese brands are just luxury based (Infiniti, Acura, Infiniti).

Nissan is just in a very tough spot from all around, and this new Z will definitely (hopefully) bring them back if they keep 95% of the Proto Z's features.

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2011 Nismo#91

Civic Type R is not revolutionary. None of the tech or safety stuff is new. Lane keeping, active cruise, autobrake, apply and android connectivity. It's updated from the old model, that's all. A double clutch at that price would be interesting but it doesn't seem to be happening so it will remain just the Golf R and Veloster N.

There are many cars that come out every few years that do "shake things up" but they are in the 80k range and I don't want to be having to spend that on a Z. The Z is supposed to be a low cost sports car and that means making some compromises. So yes it won't have an adjustable suspension, DCT, active aero, torsion diff, carbon ceramic brakes, or carbon fiber anything major. I am happy if it isn't filled with tons of extra stuff that cost extra money. If I want to throw money at a sports car there is the GTR, Corvette, Cayman, GT500, ZL1, etc

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FL 4Motion

This thread is proof that you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.

If the z35 had gone whole hog full redesign and super latest tech gizmos etc, then folks like me and others would bitch about not being as pure and old school driver focused sports car anymore, (it’d def have steer by wire ans that as much as anything else hurts driver connection to the car)

Now we get a heavily revised 370z with updated interior, better trans, better TT engine, upgraded evertything with regards to performance and most likely the aftermarket will get product out quick bc not a big change from existing car, and drivetrain isn’t new either…

And people bitch and moan that it’s not good enough

And all this happening when sports cars are struggling to justify their existence, and a global pandemic, and Nissan is financially on the ropes.



All the people who think they’re better off with an aftermarket TT kit and swapping in the new body panels to make their own are smoking some good sh1t. A TT car with warranty and corporate engineering to make it reliable for 100k plus miles is not reproducible by you. 90% of folks will be happy with stage II power levels and it will far cheaper and more reliable to get to that level starting with a factory FI’d car to begin with.

We should all be thanking the car gods this z35 even exists at all frankly. The aftermarket will step up and fix whatever factory shortcomings there will be, just like they did for the z34.

Voice59

My issue isn't that the tech isn't cutting edge. It's that the "new" Z is using technology and styling from damn near 10 years ago in most cases. ****, the power plant isn't even anything new. Just an engine swap from the Q's. The only thing that is "new" is the design.

The thing is I'm not even upset about the power plant. It's that the transmission is (from what's been released so far) the SAME 7 speed trans and SAME 6 speed manual that came in the 2009's. The interior is NOT heavily modified, unless you consider a digital dash heavily modified. It's virtually identical to what was released in the 370z with the exception of stitching.

I realize they're struggling financially but I'd wager to say it's due to lack of innovation. People just aren't interested in Nissan anymore because almost everything they produce is behind the curve by 3 to 5 years the moment it hits the showroom floor.

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FL 4Motion

/\ I totally agree with your last point, they’ve played it to safe for too long, thanks Carlos Ghoen “le cost cutter” for that one, and it backfired. This new z35 is the beginning of their turnaround hopefully.