2014 Zs are up online

Infidel · 07-29-2013, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by peleincubus

Has anyone brought up this point??

Say you purchased a 2013, and you talked them down $3000 down from msrp. And now a equally equipped 2014 you are only able to negotiate it down $2000 from msrp. Then are they really dropping the car the amount everyone here is saying and what they are advertising (trying to drum up sales)

So to sum up what I am saying isn't the truly important number actually the invoice the 370z is?? Unless people here assume that the spread from invoice to msrp will be exactly the same in the '13 model to '14 model.

My guess is it will be at least $700-$800 closer and you will not be able to talk a dealer down as much as last year.

Good guess einstein...that's the way it is when the new models first come out.

peleincubus · 07-29-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Infidel

Good guess einstein...that's the way it is when the new models first come out.

#1 I can tell by your reply, and the reply before and after mine. That rude as hell. (Seriously how does someone have 3 b*tech posts in a row like that)

#2 it does not matter "when the models first come out" what matters is the INVOICE because that is how much the car actually is. And unless my assumption is wrong then the invoice and msrp are closer together then they used to be.

But if they are not more power to me and anyone else buying a 2014 model this year. But my bet is I am right.

synolimit · 07-29-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by peleincubus

#1 I can tell by your reply, and the reply before and after mine. That rude as hell. (Seriously how does someone have 3 b*tech posts in a row like that)

#2 it does not matter "when the models first come out" what matters is the INVOICE because that is how much the car actually is. And unless my assumption is wrong then the invoice and msrp are closer together then they used to be.

But if they are not more power to me and anyone else buying a 2014 model this year. But my bet is I am right.

Whats it matter the gap? Even a little gap is still under what people paid and people are still out money and nissan should do the right thing.

Here's the 13, ill get you all the 14 soon!

Base 14 msrp $29,999, base sport $33,020. You're out money before you even begin to negotiate.

peleincubus · 07-29-2013, 11:42 AM

I'm not saying if it is right or wrong. My point was it may not actually be a $3600 price drop. It may be $2300-$2600 something like that.

And if I had bought a 2013 and this happened I would at the least be annoyed.

onzedge · 07-29-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by peleincubus

I'm not saying if it is right or wrong. My point was it may not actually be a $3600 price drop. It may be $2300-$2600 something like that.

And if I had bought a 2013 and this happened I would at the least be annoyed.

synolimit · 07-29-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by peleincubus

I'm not saying if it is right or wrong. My point was it may not actually be a $3600 price drop. It may be $2300-$2600 something like that.

And if I had bought a 2013 and this happened I would at the least be annoyed.

Well if invoice is a difference of $2094 in 13 on a base I think its fair to say its close on the 14. God forbid anyone that paid msrp, that's $3121 msrp vs msrp than another $2094 if its true for the 14 invoice. That person just lost $5215!!!

shadoquad · 07-29-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by peleincubus

I'm not saying if it is right or wrong. My point was it may not actually be a $3600 price drop. It may be $2300-$2600 something like that.

And if I had bought a 2013 and this happened I would at the least be annoyed.

There are a lot of factors that can drop resale, though. Buyer's remorse stings when these things happen, but I wouldn't pop a vessel over it. Enjoy the car you bought. The Z isn't exotic and rare, it will not appreciate in value. What is 3k of difference new may be 500 bucks difference when you sell in 5, 10, 15 yrs.

synolimit · 07-29-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

There are a lot of factors that can drop resale, though. Buyer's remorse stings when these things happen, but I wouldn't pop a vessel over it. Enjoy the car you bought. The Z isn't exotic and rare, it will not appreciate in value. What is 3k of difference new may be 500 bucks difference when you sell in 5, 10, 15 yrs.

and what about the people who want to sell it sooner? as you said this isnt an exotic car or rare. i dont think people will keep a 13 z for 15 years. its not an old 60-70z that i see people still own. to me its just a car, no more, no less. therefore i have an issue with not being able to sell it if i was an owner like some here who are like me. again i leased so nissan can have the expensive turd back in 2016 so i can get a 2016. but i would like to keep it since im putting so much time and money into it. i just dont want to pay so much for it since 14 owners can buy out for so much less.

shadoquad · 07-29-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

and what about the people who want to sell it sooner? as you said this isnt an exotic car or rare. i dont think people will keep a 13 z for 15 years. its not an old 60-70z that i see people still own. to me its just a car, no more, no less. therefore i have an issue with not being able to sell it if i was an owner like some here who are like me. again i leased so nissan can have the expensive turd back in 2016 so i can get a 2016. but i would like to keep it since im putting so much time and money into it. i just dont want to pay so much for it since 14 owners can buy out for so much less.

Some people will keep it longer. Leasing is seldom worth it anyway. Advocate away, I still think it was the right move by the company. Sorry for your misfortune?

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07-29-2013, 11:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
peleincubus Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Austin, tx Posts: 255 Drives: PW 14' 370Z Rep Power: 14	I'm not saying if it is right or wrong. My point was it may not actually be a $3600 price drop. It may be $2300-$2600 something like that. And if I had bought a 2013 and this happened I would at the least be annoyed.