Nismo = cheese-mo

sensi09

Well the oil cooler is a whole different issue. I'd expect every 370Z to be equipped with one or at least be able to handle some hot laps without issue.

I think the nismo represents a good value, but no doubt you can get more gains through aftermarket parts. I've said in my previous post in this thread that you can get more performance through aftermarket parts. I don't think that was ever a question. And when the "15-20K" was brought up, that is in regards to M and AMG models compared to the regular variants. The Nismo does 15K more than a base model. A Z with touring/sports and nav will cost more than a nismo.

I've seen the edmunds test, but that is just one test. I've commented on those threads. After all is said and done, I'd expect the Nismo to be a little faster or maybe the engine parts just don't make much more power. Or the parts make all their power at or near redline which could prove favorable on the track.

SnakeBitten

Agreed on the Edmunds test being only one test but I believe someone else tested both and came to the same conclusion if Im not mistaken. But yeah we should wait before we stamp it a dud. I agree it should be faster around a circuit track given the totality of the mods involved.

Also a Z with sport package and touring can be had for 36-38k when I was initially looking. Obviously out the door would be a bit more. But the Nismo Z starts at 39k. Out the door it will be 40k+ easily especially with the markups. Id get the SP, minus the nav package, so I can get the rev match and lsd. I can get such a car for around 34k when I was initially looking. 34k plus these mods below would make for a car around the Nismo Z's price with much better performance imho. Correct me if my numbers are not current.

Stillen Exhaust - $1500

Stillen Intake - $549

Stillen Oil Cooler - $426

Berk High Flow Cats - $549

KW Variant 3 - $2000

Hotchkis Sway bar upgrade $375

Dyno Tune - $500-1000 maybe more.

Total = 6399 without shipping. Price will climb with that added of course but I dont have a ball park for it as it varies.

The above is just enough products to beatdown the Nismo Z with ease. I didnt include wheels or bodykit as they didnt help the Nismo Z at all against a sport packaged 370z and the body kit is useless at the track dispite Nissans claim of downforce. Downforce too minimal to affect the overall numbers vs the normal SP Z.

Still have a bit of money left in that 10k Nismo premium for light track wheels, front big brake kit if the person choses. This wont get you a limited Nismo version but it will get you a Z that will embarrass the Nismo branded version on any track imho..BTW all the mods I listed wont void your waranty I believe as this is not a GTR lol.

These threads are fun but purely wishfull thinking

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NIZMOZ

Remember, you can do all this, but you won't have the downforce of the factory body kit that helps plant the tires to the ground when needed. That is one of the most important parts on a road course, is that downforce.

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SnakeBitten

I hear what you are saying but the down force produced by the bodykit is minimal. Hardly enough to offset the beatdown it would get from a Z with the mods I layed out sans bodykit. Its not like the kit produces anywhere near even half the ACR levels of down force. One of the major mags said the same thing about the Nismo 350z. Downforce is minimal as its more a bodykit than any aid in handling on track imho.

A Z equipped like I posted before would kill the Nismo Z with ease on track. Yes its about parts working in harmony but the Nismo Z package is hardly untouchable for less money than the premium it commands. All Nissan did was add standard stuff enthusiasts add but with less performance as evidenced by some of the numbers guys are getting with similar mods imho.

BTW thanks for the correction on the body welds. I assumed the 370z Nismo had the body welds as well.

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NIZMOZ

150lb at 70~ mph is A LOT! I can feel it on my Z when I am on the road course. It gets more traction and wants to grip the faster I go which is like the opposite of what it would normally do.

Sadly you are one that has never been on a track with a NISMO Z. There are many videos out there that already show how well the NISMO does with race slicks. No aftermarket Z has yet to handle as smooth and good.

But then again, the 370z has no body welds which is a huge difference in handling, so that might be enough for someone to blow off the NISMO this year.

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RCZ

I do think the Nismo 350 had more going for it than the 370 Version does.

But do you think the Nismo 350 is faster than the Nismo 370 on a track? After all, they were designed by the same people with the same purpose.

whoady4shoady

^^^^^^6That is my thinking too.

NIZMOZ

No idea till we see that test.

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SnakeBitten

You know what Ill give you that as Ive never tracked any Nismo Z. Im purely going off of Mag articles Ive read. I concur on the smoothness from what Ive also heard of the 350z Nismo as it does have the dampers and the welds to really stiffen up the body and control flex etc. As you stated I dont know if thats why the 370z version isnt any faster than the regular model. More testing should reveal the truth.

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