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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh Man this forum makes me think not very many people are happy with their Z. I am looking forward to 2014/15 tho and hopefully a mustang

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Old 12-11-2012, 02:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Man this forum makes me think not very many people are happy with their Z. I am looking forward to 2014/15 tho and hopefully a mustang that doesn't look so much like a mustang.
In hindsight I wish I wouldve kept my Cobalt SS but I do love my Z its gorgeous and RWD. My only real knock is just how expensive the aftermarket is and how relatively few options we have. If Nissan would get behind promoting the aftermarket and working with some of these companies I think a lot more people would keep their Z's
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I didn't read through this entire discussion, so forgive me if it's been brought up already, but I just read the other day...forget where, sorry (maybe CarBuzz?)...that Nissan is potentially working on reanimating the 240 to compete with the BRZ/FR-S. They'll probably keep the Z around as a more premium sports car option.

Nevertheless, yeah, I agree with a lot of the sentiment that the V6 needs some upgrading. I love my car, and I always liked the VQ since my Maxima days, but it needs more torque on the low end. Hell, I'd be happy with a moderate HP boost if it got a significant torque increase

And not that I'm concerned with gas mileage (would be driving my wife's Altima if I was) but it'd be nice to hit 30mpg, like the V6 Mustang.
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I didn't read through this entire discussion, so forgive me if it's been brought up already, but I just read the other day...forget where, sorry (maybe CarBuzz?)...that Nissan is potentially working on reanimating the 240 to compete with the BRZ/FR-S. They'll probably keep the Z around as a more premium sports car option.

Nevertheless, yeah, I agree with a lot of the sentiment that the V6 needs some upgrading. I love my car, and I always liked the VQ since my Maxima days, but it needs more torque on the low end. Hell, I'd be happy with a moderate HP boost if it got a significant torque increase

And not that I'm concerned with gas mileage (would be driving my wife's Altima if I was) but it'd be nice to hit 30mpg, like the V6 Mustang.
yea its carbuzz. nothing confirmed yet, but its looking like there is a good chance the 240 will come back for that segment and the Z will keep the 6, some version of it anyway.
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I didn't read through this entire discussion, so forgive me if it's been brought up already, but I just read the other day...forget where, sorry (maybe CarBuzz?)...that Nissan is potentially working on reanimating the 240 to compete with the BRZ/FR-S. They'll probably keep the Z around as a more premium sports car option.

Nevertheless, yeah, I agree with a lot of the sentiment that the V6 needs some upgrading. I love my car, and I always liked the VQ since my Maxima days, but it needs more torque on the low end. Hell, I'd be happy with a moderate HP boost if it got a significant torque increase

And not that I'm concerned with gas mileage (would be driving my wife's Altima if I was) but it'd be nice to hit 30mpg, like the V6 Mustang.
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I saw that video a couple weeks ago. The 240 I was referencing was the 240sx. I'm surprised Jay was so excited to be going to Nissan. He's always talked about how the Z (newer ones) never did much for him. Not bad-mouthing them, just not his taste. I guess he was just into it for the history, as a car guy.
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I have a feeling there will be mustang/camaro type options for the next Z like the Z32 had.
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Z needs to she'd some pounds , didn't the guy jay Leno visited say that was fur sure?
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Z needs to she'd some pounds , didn't the guy jay Leno visited say that was fur sure?
Yes, and I doubt we'll get lighter weight with an upgraded v6. I've read in a few other articles they want to bring the Z down to 3,000lbs. To have a v6 and that kind of weight would take porsche pricing.
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Yes, and I doubt we'll get lighter weight with an upgraded v6. I've read in a few other articles they want to bring the Z down to 3,000lbs. To have a v6 and that kind of weight would take porsche pricing.
I dont think so. i mean with some steel parts swapped for aluminum you could save some but then beings in safety issues. stock 370 weighs 3232lbs. 232 pounds could prorbably be shaved without costing ridiculous Porsche "over"-prices.
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I dont think so. i mean with some steel parts swapped for aluminum you could save some but then beings in safety issues. stock 370 weighs 3232lbs. 232 pounds could prorbably be shaved without costing ridiculous Porsche "over"-prices.
More aluminum and possibly more CF as well.
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More aluminum and possibly more CF as well.
hopefully more CF lol i still have every intention on switchin to a GT-R asap though lol
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I dont think so. i mean with some steel parts swapped for aluminum you could save some but then beings in safety issues. stock 370 weighs 3232lbs. 232 pounds could prorbably be shaved without costing ridiculous Porsche "over"-prices.
With a V6 and safety equipment???? for 30k? I don't see it. The cost of alloys that are sports car worthy are high. As it stands right now we have a shytload of aluminum and carbon fiber. Remember, our cars are 92lbs lighter without the airbag system. Our seats, radio and motor are lightweight along with our radiator housing, driveshaft, and wheels. the only thing we can do is go all aluminum on the body which may shave another 80 lbs, make the airbags lighter, maybe 20 lbs? and make the engine smaller. 100 lbs. Thin out the interior and put an even lighter weight sound system. maybe 40 lbs? Go smaller wheels next time. 17 and 18 another 24 lbs?
Possible but how much will the car be with more of the expensive alloys and carbon fiber we already have without reducing engine size?

smaller chassis and engine, we can use more alloys while still using minumum alloys in cost.
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With a V6 and safety equipment???? for 30k? I don't see it. The cost of alloys that are sports car worthy are high. As it stands right now we have a shytload of aluminum and carbon fiber. Remember, our cars are 92lbs lighter without the airbag system. Our seats, radio and motor are lightweight along with our radiator housing, driveshaft, and wheels. the only thing we can do is go all aluminum on the body which may shave another 80 lbs, make the airbags lighter, maybe 70 lbs? and make the engine smaller. 100 lbs. Thin out the interior and put an even lighter weight sound system. maybe 40 lbs? Go smaller wheels next time. 17 and 18 another 24 lbs?
Possible but how much will the car be with more of the expensive alloys and carbon fiber we already have without reducing engine size?
i wasnt tryin to get into a full out spec sheet on weights just speculation on whats to come. i see what youre sayin though but 30k? cmon who buys base models jk and busting balls.

with any car that progresses it will most likely have a slight jump in price but i dont think it'll go anywhere near ridiculous porsche prices. and to be honest i'd take a Z over a cayman any day. maybe not the 13 cayman because i think they finally got the body looking good but for price and performance i'd stick with a Z. HP is about the same so is 0-60 and 1/4 times to a cayman.

Nissan 370Z Coupe: 4.6 seconds 0-60 / 1/4 mile (coupe): 13.1 seconds at 108 mph

the porsche is 4.7 seconds 0-60 (4.4 with optional 7 speed DCT) in the Cayman S with 13.1-13.3 depending on source 1/4 mile for way too much money. you're paying for the badge and name not the (lack) in performance.
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Don't forget that they wanted to make the cars dimensions a bit smaller too.
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[QUOTE=b1adesofcha0s;2055359]Don't forget that they wanted to make the cars dimensions a bit smaller too.[/QUOTE

Our VQ barely fits in the chassis we have now. lol
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