The next gen Z!

JungleZ

I got a base non sport z 31k, took me about 3000$ to make it respectable and I still don't have akebono brakes or LSD, so the sport package was a good deal at 34 or 35k untill they hiked up he 2013 prices.
Brz close to 30k markup is a joke

UNKNOWN_370

Sad part is not a markup, it's an MSRP. If you load up a BRZ with every option, it's an extremely laughable $31,500.

UNKNOWN_370

I lol @ FWD!!! They can't be serious with that BS.

cavemancan

(Looks for Rotary Troll Spray)

I disagree. I think they can sound like crap with the wrong setup but with the right setup sound awesome. Nothing like a 3 rotor though...screamer

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b1adesofcha0s

Yeah I know it probably will, but since it hasn't been 100% confirmed yet, I'm still trying to keep some bit of hope for it

This is probably why I won't be looking at a Z for my next car. I want to take a step up in class in terms of performance, not to the side or down.

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ZMan8

I don't think so, why would they downgrade it and decrease hp, displacement, etc.

I see Nissan making a mini-Z model to compete with the FRS. The Z will probably get either Forced Induction from the factory or get a much larger engine. Perhaps two engine variants?

EDIT: additionally just think carbon fiber is getting cheaper, meaning they can use more of it to decrease weight while maintaining price. Then they will probably add direct injection which will increase power.

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theDreamer

You do realize that Nissan has the Leaf (and working on other electric & electric hybrids) which helps counter balance the Z & GT-R MPG ratings, as the whole CAFE rating system is a collective number and not per individual car, yet.

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b1adesofcha0s

Cars with such limited production numbers like the GT-R and Z don't affect the overall manufacturer average much. For everyone of these cars there's like 20 Altimas to balance out the MPG's.

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SS_Firehawk

If they were shooting for cheaper, they would have made the 370Z cheaper and less powerful when it was introduced. The Z handidly trumps every other V6 car in the market with the exception of it's bigger brother. It's in a fickle position where there is no direct performance competitor besides the Genesis 3.8. The price they are selling the Z is similar to domestic V8 performance cars with no import taxes and that's why it's compared. It just so happens that the Z is not quite as fleet of foot as them. Working with a V6 and lower weight, and without FI, they will only be able to make par against the domestics.

They do want to make it easier to get into a Z, but I see it as another model. This debate can go on till Nissan play's it's cards. Hopefully Nissan doesn't go retarded and give the Z a different letter too.

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SS_Firehawk

I disagree. I think the FRS/BRZ is filling a niche market just as the Z is. They came at a time when it was at least a decade before something similar was on the market. They will sell well until the market has had it's fill. Things will slow down. It's the same thing that happened with the 350Z. If Nissan does market a 4 cylinder turbo with the Z, it will more than likely target a position closer to the Genesis Coupe 2.0T. Yet I still see a V6 model in the lineup. They already have the motor, they will need an updated V6 for their Infiniti lineup. The more vehicles the engine is in, the easier to subsidize the engineering costs. Idk

I'm happy I bought mine when I did. 3200lbs is still light, and the VQ37VHR responds better to modifications than any N/A V6 I've ever seen. The Ford & Chevy guys are happy to make 380-425whp with turbo's and SC's. Here we are pushing 550 without engine work.

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b1adesofcha0s

Well their V8 versions offer more HP/$ than the Z. The 5.0 is definitely a better performance bargain and has more mod potential.

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Red__Zed

the V6 mustangs are pretty comfortably into the 10s already with superchargers+drag radials

b1adesofcha0s

5.0 or

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Red__Zed

3200 pounds is pretty light. Would be great if Nissan could get the Z down there...would probably make it a lot more competitive, especially if they got some of the weight off the nose.

UNKNOWN_370

Yeah, this would be more important than the actual amount of weight lost. 3000 lbs would be nice, but if we were 3150lbs with a smaller engine, slightly longer nose and the engine pushed all the way back? That would definitely work. The VQ37 is far back in the Z but the engine is kinda big for the space under the hood.