Another Vegas Run and Oil Temps scared me

the_student · 07-26-2010, 04:51 PM

Just another thought...

Have you checked your oil level?

The last time my oil temps were acting weird, I checked my oil and it was low. The less oil you have, harder it is for it to cool down.

WarmAndSCSI · 07-26-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Nissan put a throttle limiter in at 280 because they think you may get excessive bearing wear at 300. If Nissan thinks your car is fine at 260, I don't know that anyone here has the technical know how and access to Nissan data to really be able to refute that. Remember, the 280 limit is just a precaution, not an engine failure.

That's fine and dandy, but even Nissan cannot predict what will happen if you're pushing oil temp that high on X, Y, or Z oil. Different oils have vastly different protection levels at a given temperature.

I have to say, 260-280 is very high for a Group II-based oil (conventional). Those kinds of sustained oil temperatures are the reason we have synthetic oil available anyway.

After looking at UOA reports on Nissan Ester Oil on normal change intervals, it would be kind of scary to push 260-280 degrees on an oil with relatively low viscosity at temperature.

That said, 260 degrees is nothing for an excellent Group IV or V-based true synthetic oil. Using a good oil will net you some peace of mind, at the least.

flashburn · 07-26-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by the_student

Just another thought...

Have you checked your oil level?

The last time my oil temps were acting weird, I checked my oil and it was low. The less oil you have, harder it is for it to cool down.

How about the first reply? And like 10 others.

the_student · 07-26-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

How about the first reply? And like 10 others.

Hahahaha...damn I only read the first page and not well. I didnt notice the three pages. FAIL

facepalm to myself lol

chuckd05 · 07-26-2010, 05:09 PM

i hit 160 at about 105 degrees cruising down a highway at about 60-80 mph on average... pretty ridiculous...

Oil Cooler is coming soon...

whats odd is I just put in penzoil my last oil change and I swear it runs hotter than royal purple did, and i swear ester ran the coolest but it wasnt summer time when I had the ester...

Next change will be redline and than I will make my mind up on what I am going to use from that point foward.

Ztoon · 07-26-2010, 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=antman22;645316]in my professional opinion, i think the high temp was God's way of telling you to turn around and avoid the Justin Bieber concert.

Amen to that

TamZ · 07-26-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by antman22

in my professional opinion, i think the high temp was God's way of telling you to turn around and avoid the Justin Bieber concert.

That thought did cross my mind..lol

Cjanik · 07-26-2010, 06:37 PM

I live in Vegas,

i drive 8 miles to work and home everyday. in the morning its not bad, but in the day time, its about 114 outside and my car gets to 220-240 just in daily traffic inside of the 8 mile drive.

with that said, i did buy an oil cooler. i have not seen my car go above 200 in daily traffic and 220 when pushing it.

I'd recommend if you like Vegas trips in your vehicle, to get an oil cooler. I seem to think there's a lack of air movement under the car due to the cover, to keep the oil from going up too high. that and the engineering wasn't good enough!
some of my highest temp's came from freeway driving, about a 15 mile freeway drive put me at 240 @ 75mph.

sonic370 · 07-26-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billydsz

Most cars don't have an oil temp gauge and now we know why. I bet most cars' oil temps get very high from time to time but because there is no gauge we are fat dumb and happy.

I predict Nissan pulls the oil temp gauge in future revisions. lol.

i'm starting to think nissan put the oil temp gauge there because they knew
there could be issues with oil temps in these cars. its a different kind of heat here in texas but between 90 to 100 its always 210 to 220. at 240 i start to worry.

sonic370 · 07-26-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

like was posted, it goes into limp mode at 280, so you are fine up to that point. Its not ideal, but it won't do any harm. When I had my superchared corvette, both my local performance shop and the head mechanic at Spring Mountain race school in Las Vegas said 285 was as hot as I wanted to see the oil in the LS2, and I think its a function of oil break down and not the particular engine.

before my oil cooler, I saw 260 in stop and go traffic here in atlanta at around 100 outside air temp.

sorry to sound stupid but what happens in limp mode. keep in clean!!!

TamZ · 07-26-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370

sorry to sound stupid but what happens in limp mode. keep in clean!!!

Lol...

nicknick · 07-26-2010, 10:04 PM

In regards to oil on these things, I'd recommend using either Motul or Redline. Both are made from Ester and both resist heat breakdown better than the other common synthetics. If you're going to use the Motul 300V series which is a double ester, it is r3ecommended that oil be changed every 5,000kilometres as this is basically a racing oil and will stay in spec under the most arduous conditions but does need to be changed at 5,000kms'.

Zsteve · 07-26-2010, 10:07 PM

limp mode

WarmAndSCSI · 07-26-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick

In regards to oil on these things, I'd recommend using either Motul or Redline. Both are made from Ester and both resist heat breakdown better than the other common synthetics. If you're going to use the Motul 300V series which is a double ester, it is r3ecommended that oil be changed every 5,000kilometres as this is basically a racing oil and will stay in spec under the most arduous conditions but does need to be changed at 5,000kms'.

No need for either... I pay extra for Red Line for engines I invest $15k+ into, but not a stock engine that's still under a factory warranty. There really is no advantage or extra insurance, I'd put a wager on that.

Mobil 1, Castrol Syntec, Pennzoil Platinum, take your pick. If you're ultra-picky, there are Group IV oils available on the shelves of any auto store.

Vegasboricua · 07-27-2010, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

No need for either... I pay extra for Red Line for engines I invest $15k+ into, but not a stock engine that's still under a factory warranty. There really is no advantage or extra insurance, I'd put a wager on that.

Mobil 1, Castrol Syntec, Pennzoil Platinum, take your pick. If you're ultra-picky, there are Group IV oils available on the shelves of any auto store.

07-26-2010, 04:51 PM	#46 (permalink)
the_student Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: bay area Posts: 522 Drives: '13 LE 4runner Rep Power: 16	Just another thought... Have you checked your oil level? The last time my oil temps were acting weird, I checked my oil and it was low. The less oil you have, harder it is for it to cool down. __________________ 2009 370Z PW 6MT Base/Sport/KW/PWJDM/HKS...RIP. 2011 370Z PW 6MT Base/Sport...KW V3/HKS/TE37 SL/Clear Bra

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chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	i hit 160 at about 105 degrees cruising down a highway at about 60-80 mph on average... pretty ridiculous... Oil Cooler is coming soon... whats odd is I just put in penzoil my last oil change and I swear it runs hotter than royal purple did, and i swear ester ran the coolest but it wasnt summer time when I had the ester... Next change will be redline and than I will make my mind up on what I am going to use from that point foward. __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

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Ztoon Track Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: B.C. Posts: 578 Drives: '09 370a7 Rep Power: 24	[QUOTE=antman22;645316]in my professional opinion, i think the high temp was God's way of telling you to turn around and avoid the Justin Bieber concert. Amen to that __________________ Stillen G3\|CBE\|ground kit, F.I. H.F.C., C.F. fangs\|mirrors\|pillars, Hotchkis, SSR Type-F, RE-11, UpRev, BC BR coilovers 15% tint, LED black hdlts, color match handles, Dynamat, tail lt. tint, Mines C.F. frt. lip\|rear spoiler, Amuse rear,skirts, vented fenders, c.f. vented hood, gloss blk. roof

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Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 21	limp mode __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

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07-26-2010, 06:37 PM	#53 (permalink)
Cjanik Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 578 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 17	I live in Vegas, i drive 8 miles to work and home everyday. in the morning its not bad, but in the day time, its about 114 outside and my car gets to 220-240 just in daily traffic inside of the 8 mile drive. with that said, i did buy an oil cooler. i have not seen my car go above 200 in daily traffic and 220 when pushing it. I'd recommend if you like Vegas trips in your vehicle, to get an oil cooler. I seem to think there's a lack of air movement under the car due to the cover, to keep the oil from going up too high. that and the engineering wasn't good enough! some of my highest temp's came from freeway driving, about a 15 mile freeway drive put me at 240 @ 75mph.

07-26-2010, 10:04 PM	#57 (permalink)
nicknick Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 438 Drives: Mazda mx5 2007 6sp m Rep Power: 16	In regards to oil on these things, I'd recommend using either Motul or Redline. Both are made from Ester and both resist heat breakdown better than the other common synthetics. If you're going to use the Motul 300V series which is a double ester, it is r3ecommended that oil be changed every 5,000kilometres as this is basically a racing oil and will stay in spec under the most arduous conditions but does need to be changed at 5,000kms'.