Another Vegas Run and Oil Temps scared me

TamZ · 07-26-2010, 12:40 AM

Made another run to Vegas, this time with my 14 year old daughter in tow.. A special trip to take her to see Justin Bieber in concert. Oh, joy! (NOT!)

It was 114-121 degrees on my drive through Baker area (at least that is what the temp gauge said) and I watched the oil temps climb up higher than I've ever seen them. I couldn't remember what I'd read on here about the proper oil temps and I even tried to get to the forum on my phone, but got frustrated with trying to search on my small phone..lol..so I called Nissan. I don't think I've ever seen the oil temp gauge go over 220 ever but it was at 260 when I was driving to Vegas and I wasn't going that fast (cruising about 75ish most of the way). Since it was just my daughter and I, out in the middle of nowhere, I decided to pull over and called my Nissan dealer (first guy I talked to in service wasn't familiar with the car, so he had to go ask another technician) and they said that "those #'s didn't freak them out." but I sat there for awhile and let it cool down and then went on again. It eventually crawled back down to 190 after we got going downhill across state line but then crawled back up again.

I've tried searching on this forum about what my oil temps should be or what would be considered "high", I can't find it (or I'm an idiot at using search). My husband said Nissan should have been able to tell me but the guy just didn't seem very helpful over the phone. I had just never seen the gauge go that high.

I know I've read on here about the oil temp issues but always just assumed that was on the track. Would just normal driving in extreme heat also cause high temps? And maybe 260 isn't high? I don't know..the gauge only goes to 300 so I was getting worried!

P.S. Please feel free to move this if I'm putting my question in the wrong area, AK.

Pharmacist · 07-26-2010, 12:50 AM

sounds incredibly high! did you check the oil and coolant levels? maybe you are low on one or both? what did the water temp gauge say? i know it's not very accurate but did it read high too?

TamZ · 07-26-2010, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

sounds incredibly high! did you check the oil and coolant levels? maybe you are low on one or both? what did the water temp gauge say? i know it's not very accurate but did it read high too?

Coolant temps were fine/normal. That's what was weird to me. I don't normally watch the oil gauge all that much because it's not like I drive the thing very fast. Coolant/temp gauge was a few dots below the middle, as usual. The oil temp gauge was almost always over 220 the entire trip..and up to just one line below 260. Even on my trip home, today..the oil temps read over 220 nearly the whole way home until I got closer to Valencia and the temps air temp dipped down to the 80's.

Car drove fine, didn't act up or differently. I just noticed the gauge. And I too thought 240-260 was high but wasn't sure. Husband checked my oil and coolant before I left. The service guy told me that at the high air temps the "oil breaks down".

Honestly, I know nothing about oil, and my husband was 100's of miles away. And if I'm still being honest, he doesn't know much about this car. LOL.

SoCal 370Z · 07-26-2010, 01:00 AM

Would you mind highlighting this road stretch on a Google map? This is the very reason my wife will not drive our 370Z on a long trip into the high, heated elevations. She does not trust it in weather with high heat.

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Trips · 07-26-2010, 01:04 AM

For being in high ambient temp that's normal, I would have suggested if you didn't have it on? Was to turn the AC on that would help bring down the temp, 260 in ambient temps over or near 100 is expected, it won't go into limp mode until it reaches 280. I hope you have an Oil Cooler installed for the next trip. That will bring down the temps by at least 20 degrees. I'm sorry to hear of what happened, and that nissan wasn't any help.

TamZ · 07-26-2010, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

Would you mind highlighting this road stretch on a Google map? This is the very reason my wife will not drive our 370Z on a long trip into the high, heated elevations. She does not trust it in weather with high heat.

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I will see if I can get my daughter to help me out with the google map thing. But I was about 20 minutes past Baker on the 15. And the only time they went below 220 after that was when I was going downhill, going across state line.

I am going to take it in to Nissan this week to get the oil changed, it's about 2500 miles since my last oil change but wanted to get it changed after this and talk to them at service.

I actually don't blame your wife. As I was sitting there in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE..with my 14 year old daughter, in the blazing heat, hoping I wasn't going to blow up my car...I can understand why she'd be afraid. We were fine..but still. Frustrating. I was definitely NOT pushing the car in any way--I had my daughter with me!

TamZ · 07-26-2010, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's

For being in high ambient temp that's normal, I would have suggested if you didn't have it on? Was to turn the AC on that would help bring down the temp, 260 in ambient temps over or near 100 is expected, it won't go into limp mode until it reaches 280. I hope you have an Oil Cooler installed for the next trip. That will bring down the temps by at least 20 degrees. I'm sorry to hear of what happened, and that nissan wasn't any help.

A/C was on the whole time. I guess I will have to have my husband look into an oil cooler. I was hyper-vigilant about waiting to see if it went into limp mode, which it did not. It really drove just fine, it's just after I noticed the oil gauge temp, I never could enjoy the drive--I was always watching gauges.

Thanks for the info!

TamZ · 07-26-2010, 01:15 AM

Here was the temp outside. My coolant temp gauge read normal. (I never thought to take a picture of the oil gauge).

Trips · 07-26-2010, 01:19 AM

Ambient was high.

SoCal 370Z · 07-26-2010, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TamZ

I actually don't blame your wife. As I was sitting there in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE..with my 14 year old daughter, in the blazing heat, hoping I wasn't going to blow up my car...I can understand why she'd be afraid. We were fine..but still. Frustrating. I was definitely NOT pushing the car in any way--I had my daughter with me!

When the oil temp issue first arose I explained on this forum that my motivations for being concerned about this issue were not the motivations that others share—your case is the exact case in point for my motivation. My wife just read this thread and she is mad as hell. Personally, I believe she has every right to be as I believe Nissan is hedging its bet on a very small calculated probability that this will happen which Nissan deems acceptable.

P.S. I have considered signing my wife up here as a premium member, but I am sure after a few posts AK would kick her off the forum. (She doesn't have a problem, "telling it like it is.")

TamZ · 07-26-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

When the oil temp issue first arose I explained on this forum that my motivations for being concerned about this issue were not the motivations that others share—your case is the exact case in point for my motivation. My wife just read this thread and she is mad as hell. Personally, I believe she has every right to be as I believe Nissan is hedging its bet on a very small calculated probability that this will happen which Nissan deems acceptable.

P.S. I have considered signing my wife up here as a premium member, but I am sure after a few posts AK would kick her off the forum. (She doesn't have a problem, "telling it like it is.")

I honestly never gave the oil temp issue much thought--just a "Hmm..well, I never track it so..."

Now, I understand. But I also know I don't drive to Vegas all the time either, in high heat. But still..Some people actually LIVE in places like this and that would scare me.

I still love my car. But I don't think I'll drive it through Baker again in 100+ degree temps. I'll time my trips to not be in the heat of the day. But sure wish I didn't have to worry about that with a new car

wishihadnav · 07-26-2010, 01:30 AM

Yeah that's pretty hot..early morning or evening trips would def be better...justin beiber haha!

TamZ · 07-26-2010, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

Yeah that's pretty hot..early morning or evening trips would def be better...justin beiber haha!

I know...Sean Kingston opened for him, I at least semi-enjoyed that. What can I say--I love my daughter..lol.

TamZ · 07-26-2010, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TamZ

My husband said Nissan should have been able to tell me but the guy just didn't seem very helpful over the phone. I had just never seen the gauge go that high.

I should probably rephrase this. He was helpful (and very polite), but I just didn't feel like he/anyone could give me an answer as to what the oil temp should be in those ambient temps (114-121). Honestly, at first he didn't even think the Z had an oil temp gauge. LOL!

I wanted someone to say, "That's a fine temp..don't worry." or "call a tow truck." It was sort of scary to have someone say "those temps dont freak me out" and then hope the car can make it the rest of the way to Vegas!

Trips · 07-26-2010, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TamZ

I should probably rephrase this. He was helpful (and very polite), but I just didn't feel like he/anyone could give me an answer as to what the oil temp should be in those ambient temps (114-121). Honestly, at first he didn't even think the Z had an oil temp gauge. LOL!

I wanted someone to say, "That's a fine temp..don't worry." or "call a tow truck." It was sort of scary to have someone say "those temps dont freak me out" and then hope the car can make it the rest of the way to Vegas!

Those feelings are perfectly normal under those circumstances, and I'm glad you and daughter got back safe.

07-26-2010, 12:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
TamZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 433 Drives: 2011 Mercedes GL 350 Rep Power: 15	Another Vegas Run and Oil Temps scared me Made another run to Vegas, this time with my 14 year old daughter in tow.. A special trip to take her to see Justin Bieber in concert. Oh, joy! (NOT!) It was 114-121 degrees on my drive through Baker area (at least that is what the temp gauge said) and I watched the oil temps climb up higher than I've ever seen them. I couldn't remember what I'd read on here about the proper oil temps and I even tried to get to the forum on my phone, but got frustrated with trying to search on my small phone..lol..so I called Nissan. I don't think I've ever seen the oil temp gauge go over 220 ever but it was at 260 when I was driving to Vegas and I wasn't going that fast (cruising about 75ish most of the way). Since it was just my daughter and I, out in the middle of nowhere, I decided to pull over and called my Nissan dealer (first guy I talked to in service wasn't familiar with the car, so he had to go ask another technician) and they said that "those #'s didn't freak them out." but I sat there for awhile and let it cool down and then went on again. It eventually crawled back down to 190 after we got going downhill across state line but then crawled back up again. I've tried searching on this forum about what my oil temps should be or what would be considered "high", I can't find it (or I'm an idiot at using search). My husband said Nissan should have been able to tell me but the guy just didn't seem very helpful over the phone. I had just never seen the gauge go that high. I know I've read on here about the oil temp issues but always just assumed that was on the track. Would just normal driving in extreme heat also cause high temps? And maybe 260 isn't high? I don't know..the gauge only goes to 300 so I was getting worried! P.S. Please feel free to move this if I'm putting my question in the wrong area, AK. __________________ Tammy

07-26-2010, 12:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
Pharmacist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,249 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 17	sounds incredibly high! did you check the oil and coolant levels? maybe you are low on one or both? what did the water temp gauge say? i know it's not very accurate but did it read high too? __________________ 2009 370z Sport Touring/Nismo shift Knob/Z1 motorsports 34 row oil cooler

07-26-2010, 01:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
SoCal 370Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: US of A Posts: 2,842 Drives: Answers Rep Power: 33	Would you mind highlighting this road stretch on a Google map? This is the very reason my wife will not drive our 370Z on a long trip into the high, heated elevations. She does not trust it in weather with high heat. Subscribed __________________ ( Click to show/hide ) Why I NEVER say NO to the Panda Lou Fusz!!!

07-26-2010, 01:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,728 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	For being in high ambient temp that's normal, I would have suggested if you didn't have it on? Was to turn the AC on that would help bring down the temp, 260 in ambient temps over or near 100 is expected, it won't go into limp mode until it reaches 280. I hope you have an Oil Cooler installed for the next trip. That will bring down the temps by at least 20 degrees. I'm sorry to hear of what happened, and that nissan wasn't any help. __________________

07-26-2010, 01:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,728 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	Ambient was high. __________________

07-26-2010, 01:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 183	Yeah that's pretty hot..early morning or evening trips would def be better...justin beiber haha!

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