Stillen vs. Smoky: your take on intakes

LaSeeno · 03-30-2010, 10:32 AM

Am I blind or is this thread not very informative?

Zsteve · 03-30-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LaSeeno

Am I blind or is this thread not very informative?

I think its the pricing thats blinding you, it blinded me when I saw their pricing. Not to mention, damn near gave me a heart attack.

semtex · 03-30-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I think its the pricing thats blinding you, it blinded me when I saw their pricing. Not to mention, damn near gave me a heart attack.

I must've missed it. How much are these intakes?

Zsteve · 03-28-2010, 12:54 AM

Me personally I dont think anyone is going to come up with a super CAI that out performs all others by marginal amounts. As long as the CAI is pulling air from the outside of the engine bay, they are gong to be very close. I mean lets face it, its just some tubes, a filter and a MAF. Small changes in any of these may produce gains but Im sure all companies have done every variation possible to get the most out of a CAI. So if one does better than another by a few hp, can we really say its better when one can not, and I repeat, can not excatly duplicate the conditions every time? I say choose the one that looks good to you and that you can aford.

ZForce · 03-28-2010, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Me personally I dont think anyone is going to come up with a super CAI that out performs all others by marginal amounts. As long as the CAI is pulling air from the outside of the engine bay, they are gong to be very close. I mean lets face it, its just some tubes, a filter and a MAF. Small changes in any of these may produce gains but Im sure all companies have done every variation possible to get the most out of a CAI. So if one does better than another by a few hp, can we really say its better when one can not, and I repeat, can not excatly duplicate the conditions every time? I say choose the one that looks good to you and that you can aford.

Well put, I agree.

Not that it prolly matters, but did they shoot any video?

SE · 03-28-2010, 01:50 AM

whats the release date on top secret intakes? pricing?

Zsteve · 03-28-2010, 10:25 AM

MY question is, what makes theirs make power when the other (short rams) lost power and are the same same setup? Are the TS tubes and MAF a different diameter? Was there a tune on the car already for their CAI? I mean ther are only so many things you can change on a short ram that is only a foot long from the filter to the engine. Was the engine heat soaked for one and not the other? And WHY SO PRICY? The only thing I can see that would change things would be the MAF area. But if its true then thats would be great cuz I dont wont to take my bumber off to clean filters.

And yes Im finding it hard to believe a CAI is gaining 20 HP but who knows maybe our car is CAI lover unlike other cars.

Oh did they say what the before numbers were with the stock box?

G Fo12ce · 03-28-2010, 11:12 AM

I'm just going to answer your price question for now. The fact that the Top Secret intake is made in Japan has a lot to do with it. Start factoring in things like echange rate from Yen to $, shipping and import taxes and those are things that bump the price which have nothiing to do with the design.

If you have a vendor that's going to bring in a lot, then you can spread the duty and shipping over more product and bring the price down. I would think you could probably buy/offer it at a better price too since i'm sure any manufacturer would give you a price break at a certain quantity. If you are buying one at a time you (the customer) are paying for everything.

Zsteve · 03-28-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by G Fo12ce

I'm just going to answer your price question for now. The fact that the Top Secret intake is made in Japan has a lot to do with it. Start factoring in things like echange rate from Yen to $, shipping and import taxes and those are things that bump the price which have nothiing to do with the design.

If you have a vendor that's going to bring in a lot, then you can spread the duty and shipping over more product and bring the price down. I would think you could probably buy/offer it at a better price too since i'm sure any manufacturer would give you a price break at a certain quantity. If you are buying one at a time you (the customer) are paying for everything.

I guess I can see the high price but you would think if they want it to sell here they would have to lower it. I will wait to see if any members here get it and dyno it. Still cant see whats so different then the other short rams like it.

ZForce · 03-28-2010, 11:04 AM

Another member posted that someone needs to pull the trigger on one and throw it on the dyno.

Endgame · 03-28-2010, 09:55 PM

Cost of the TS CAI?

TurboFC3C · 03-29-2010, 02:45 AM

From tonight:

phelan · 03-29-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboFC3C

From tonight:

sooo who's translatin' for them? lol

Baker · 03-29-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

sooo who's translatin' for them? lol

The dyno at Secret Services is translating for Smoky.

FuszNissan · 03-29-2010, 11:18 AM

I see the stainless steel case of unicorn blood has made it to the US

View Poll Results: Which intake do you think will come out on top?
Stillen G3	73	47.40%
Top Secret	48	31.17%
They will be essentially equal in HP gain.	33	21.43%
Voters: 154. You may not vote on this poll

03-28-2010, 12:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	Me personally I dont think anyone is going to come up with a super CAI that out performs all others by marginal amounts. As long as the CAI is pulling air from the outside of the engine bay, they are gong to be very close. I mean lets face it, its just some tubes, a filter and a MAF. Small changes in any of these may produce gains but Im sure all companies have done every variation possible to get the most out of a CAI. So if one does better than another by a few hp, can we really say its better when one can not, and I repeat, can not excatly duplicate the conditions every time? I say choose the one that looks good to you and that you can aford. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

03-28-2010, 10:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	MY question is, what makes theirs make power when the other (short rams) lost power and are the same same setup? Are the TS tubes and MAF a different diameter? Was there a tune on the car already for their CAI? I mean ther are only so many things you can change on a short ram that is only a foot long from the filter to the engine. Was the engine heat soaked for one and not the other? And WHY SO PRICY? The only thing I can see that would change things would be the MAF area. But if its true then thats would be great cuz I dont wont to take my bumber off to clean filters. And yes Im finding it hard to believe a CAI is gaining 20 HP but who knows maybe our car is CAI lover unlike other cars. Oh did they say what the before numbers were with the stock box? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette Last edited by Zsteve; 03-28-2010 at 10:31 AM.

03-28-2010, 11:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
G Fo12ce Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 996 Drives: Sold! Rep Power: 52	I'm just going to answer your price question for now. The fact that the Top Secret intake is made in Japan has a lot to do with it. Start factoring in things like echange rate from Yen to $, shipping and import taxes and those are things that bump the price which have nothiing to do with the design. If you have a vendor that's going to bring in a lot, then you can spread the duty and shipping over more product and bring the price down. I would think you could probably buy/offer it at a better price too since i'm sure any manufacturer would give you a price break at a certain quantity. If you are buying one at a time you (the customer) are paying for everything. __________________ Nismo Suspension: New Owners Check Here! Last edited by G Fo12ce; 03-28-2010 at 11:17 AM.

03-29-2010, 11:18 AM	#15 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	I see the stainless steel case of unicorn blood has made it to the US __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

03-30-2010, 10:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
LaSeeno Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mars Posts: 129 Drives: NA Rep Power: 17	Am I blind or is this thread not very informative?

03-28-2010, 01:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
SE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,236 Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F Rep Power: 24	whats the release date on top secret intakes? pricing?

03-28-2010, 11:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
ZForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,359 Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport Rep Power: 22	Another member posted that someone needs to pull the trigger on one and throw it on the dyno.

03-28-2010, 09:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	Cost of the TS CAI?

03-29-2010, 02:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
TurboFC3C Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 23 Drives: 98 S14 90 FC Rep Power: 16	From tonight:

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