Stillen vs. Smoky: your take on intakes

efuseakay · 03-31-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Baker-Jackson Nissan

Stilllen X2

Quad intakes!

kekermahoney · 04-01-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by geterdone

1100 dollars. That is a freaking joke. I have owned many sports cars and that is just freaking ridiculous. I though I was nuts when I paid 550 for the intake on my Z06.

methinks 1100 is a bit steep lol Looks a bit easier to install then the G3 tho...

Red370 · 04-01-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by efuseakay

But how well will those filters on the TS intake actually work? Those green foamy filters just scare me. I don't see how they'd be effective with actual filtration.

They dont last that long actually.

Z eliminator · 04-01-2010, 07:52 AM

I tested the stillen intakes on my 370 sport 7 AT. I have a dyno run for every Mod that i have done to the car.
Base line 265. RWHP SAE The car was bone stock
Stillen G 3 284.9 RWHP SAE ( bumper was on the car ) NO tuning stock ecu
It made these #s after 3 pulls on the dyno.
19.9 RWHP SAE gain.
I also watched the intake temps with the Cobb and they dropped from 80 degres to 60.1 when the car was on the dyno. the room temp was 58 to 59 degres.
The stillen G3 is a great intake $ for RWHP best mod that you can do.

Red370 · 04-01-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

I tested the stillen intakes on my 370 sport 7 AT. I have a dyno run for every Mod that i have done to the car.
Base line 265. RWHP SAE The car was bone stock
Stillen G 3 284.9 RWHP SAE ( bumper was on the car ) NO tuning stock ecu
It made these #s after 3 pulls on the dyno.
19.9 RWHP SAE gain.
I also watched the intake temps with the Cobb and they dropped from 80 degres to 60.1 when the car was on the dyno. the room temp was 58 to 59 degres.
The stillen G3 is a great intake $ for RWHP best mod that you can do.

370Zsteve · 04-01-2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

I tested the stillen intakes on my 370 sport 7 AT. I have a dyno run for every Mod that i have done to the car.
Base line 265. RWHP SAE The car was bone stock
Stillen G 3 284.9 RWHP SAE ( bumper was on the car ) NO tuning stock ecu
It made these #s after 3 pulls on the dyno.
19.9 RWHP SAE gain.
I also watched the intake temps with the Cobb and they dropped from 80 degres to 60.1 when the car was on the dyno. the room temp was 58 to 59 degres.
The stillen G3 is a great intake $ for RWHP best mod that you can do.

That's a lot of gain for an intake, regardless of brand. Dynos typically produce wildly fluctuating numbers even on the same day. For example, I have seen the local dyno produce numbers that vary by +10hp simply by letting the engine cool for 15 minutes after a pull. Saw that happen the other day on 3 different cars.

Z eliminator · 04-01-2010, 08:35 AM

My engine made 260.1 when it was hot.
I know make 320.1 rwhp with the G3 , berk cats. Stillen CBE. underdrive pully. and my own cobb tune on 94 sunoco.
With 292 rwhp it ran the 1/4 in 12.8009 .
On my car there is a 5 hp loss on a hot engine.

JvKintheUSA · 04-01-2010, 09:47 AM

1% loss in HP for every 10 degrees in temperature increase they say, so CAI should be better. I have R2C short ram intakes installed and did not notice any real gains, but also no loss in power - just louder. Since I'm still trying to pay down my debt, I have no money for a dyno run. Someone wants to sponsor me?

Endgame · 04-01-2010, 03:22 PM

The thing I liked about the TS intakes is that they showed a nice gain across the powerband. The Stillen ones seemed to only produce top end gains.

Am I wrong?

Zsteve · 04-01-2010, 03:26 PM

nd for that amount of money I would wait for someone else to buy it and do some numbers for us. And it better have a money back garantee.

semtex · 04-01-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Endgame

The thing I liked about the TS intakes is that they showed a nice gain across the powerband. The Stillen ones seemed to only produce top end gains.

Am I wrong?

I can't speak for anyone else's results, but my gains from the G3 appear to have been pretty even across the rpm range.

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After:.

It's a little tough to tell because they're not overlaid. Plus it doesn't help that the increments on the y-axis aren't the same. But pick any point on the rpm band. Take 5k rpm, for instance. On the before graph, I was making around 210, maybe? Defn. less than 225 whp. On the after graph, at 5k I'm clearly above 225 whp, it looks somewhere around 233 whp. Even as low as 3500 rpm. On the before graph I'm making just a hair shy of 150 whp. On the after graph, I'm making around 165 whp at 3500 rpm.

Endgame · 04-01-2010, 03:35 PM

is that not what baker nissan did??

Endgame · 04-01-2010, 04:00 PM

Good stuff. THX!

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Originally Posted by semtex

I can't speak for anyone else's results, but my gains from the G3 appear to have been pretty even across the rpm range.

Before:

After:.

It's a little tough to tell because they're not overlaid. Plus it doesn't help that the increments on the y-axis aren't the same. But pick any point on the rpm band. Take 5k rpm, for instance. On the before graph, I was making around 210, maybe? Defn. less than 225 whp. On the after graph, at 5k I'm clearly above 225 whp, it looks somewhere around 233 whp. Even as low as 3500 rpm. On the before graph I'm making just a hair shy of 150 whp. On the after graph, I'm making around 165 whp at 3500 rpm.

JB-370z · 04-01-2010, 09:25 PM

I noticed my hks intakes had a funnel like device on the inside of the tubes, does anyone elses have this? Think it might create like a vortex like air flow but not sure. I got 281.72 whp with 231.56 tq on a dynojet with I/E/HFC's not sure if this sucks bad or not.

Zsteve · 04-01-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z

I noticed my hks intakes had a funnel like device on the inside of the tubes, does anyone elses have this? Think it might create like a vortex like air flow but not sure. I got 281.72 whp with 231.56 tq on a dynojet with I/E/HFC's not sure if this sucks bad or not.

I think thats called a verturi (spelling?) affect. It is kinda like a funnel to help make the air have more force or something like that.

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04-01-2010, 07:52 AM	#124 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 18	I tested the stillen intakes on my 370 sport 7 AT. I have a dyno run for every Mod that i have done to the car. Base line 265. RWHP SAE The car was bone stock Stillen G 3 284.9 RWHP SAE ( bumper was on the car ) NO tuning stock ecu It made these #s after 3 pulls on the dyno. 19.9 RWHP SAE gain. I also watched the intake temps with the Cobb and they dropped from 80 degres to 60.1 when the car was on the dyno. the room temp was 58 to 59 degres. The stillen G3 is a great intake $ for RWHP best mod that you can do. __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

04-01-2010, 08:35 AM	#127 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 18	My engine made 260.1 when it was hot. I know make 320.1 rwhp with the G3 , berk cats. Stillen CBE. underdrive pully. and my own cobb tune on 94 sunoco. With 292 rwhp it ran the 1/4 in 12.8009 . On my car there is a 5 hp loss on a hot engine. __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

04-01-2010, 09:47 AM	#128 (permalink)
JvKintheUSA Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 465 Drives: 2013 Shelby GT500 Rep Power: 427	1% loss in HP for every 10 degrees in temperature increase they say, so CAI should be better. I have R2C short ram intakes installed and did not notice any real gains, but also no loss in power - just louder. Since I'm still trying to pay down my debt, I have no money for a dyno run. Someone wants to sponsor me? __________________ Last edited by JvKintheUSA; 04-01-2010 at 06:43 PM.

04-01-2010, 03:26 PM	#130 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 21	nd for that amount of money I would wait for someone else to buy it and do some numbers for us. And it better have a money back garantee. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

04-01-2010, 03:22 PM	#129 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 223	The thing I liked about the TS intakes is that they showed a nice gain across the powerband. The Stillen ones seemed to only produce top end gains. Am I wrong?

04-01-2010, 03:35 PM	#132 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 223	is that not what baker nissan did??

04-01-2010, 09:25 PM	#134 (permalink)
JB-370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 1,859 Drives: Stage 2 Twin Turbos Rep Power: 19	I noticed my hks intakes had a funnel like device on the inside of the tubes, does anyone elses have this? Think it might create like a vortex like air flow but not sure. I got 281.72 whp with 231.56 tq on a dynojet with I/E/HFC's not sure if this sucks bad or not. __________________ ll Baker Tuning ll GTM ll Powerhouse Amuse ll HKS ll Up-Rev ll iForged ll AP Racing ll Pioneer ll SPL ll Bride ll Top Secret ll OS Giken ll GTM Stage 2 Twin Turboed 370z (First in Texas, Thanks To Baker Tuning)

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