Stillen vs. Smoky: your take on intakes

Endgame · 03-30-2010, 12:59 AM

So many keep saying heat soak would lower the HP numbers. From what I have read, however, they drove this car around time in stop go traffic, then dynoed it again and got the same results. I would think that would be a true real world test.

Don't hate fellas..... BTW - I find it interesting that Stillen has not chimed in....

G37sHKS · 03-30-2010, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame

So many keep saying heat soak would lower the HP numbers. From what I have read, however, they drove this car around time in stop go traffic, then dynoed it again and got the same results. I would think that would be a true real world test.

Don't hate fellas..... BTW - I find it interesting that Stillen has not chimed in....

lool

Matt · 03-30-2010, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame

BTW - I find it interesting that Stillen has not chimed in....

Stillen would have 2 reasons to visit this thread.

- To congratulate Top Secret on designing a superior intake system.

- To call everyone involved with the dyno stupid, or worse, call them liars.

Neither seems like a very smart approach by a trusted, mainstream company like Stillen.

Endgame · 03-30-2010, 09:33 AM

Well, the way I see it, they are still in a good spot. Their Intake still makes very nice power and for half the cost. No pride lost at all. I am still torn on what I will do when time for my intake.

If TS is like the Porsche Cayman S of intakes, Stillen is like the 370Z of intakes. Different strokes for different folks....

phelan · 03-30-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame

Well, the way I see it, they are still in a good spot. Their Intake still makes very nice power and for half the cost. No pride lost at all. I am still torn on what I will do when time for my intake.

If TS is like the Porsche Cayman S of intakes, Stillen is like the 370Z of intakes. Different strokes for different folks....

that almost makes it sound like you're set on the Stillens. 370Z of intakes should go on the 370Z...right???

Endgame · 03-30-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

that almost makes it sound like you're set on the Stillens. 370Z of intakes should go on the 370Z...right???

.....m a y b e!

geterdone · 03-30-2010, 11:26 PM

1100 dollars. That is a freaking joke. I have owned many sports cars and that is just freaking ridiculous. I though I was nuts when I paid 550 for the intake on my Z06.

kekermahoney · 04-01-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by geterdone

1100 dollars. That is a freaking joke. I have owned many sports cars and that is just freaking ridiculous. I though I was nuts when I paid 550 for the intake on my Z06.

methinks 1100 is a bit steep lol Looks a bit easier to install then the G3 tho...

efuseakay · 03-31-2010, 10:34 PM

But how well will those filters on the TS intake actually work? Those green foamy filters just scare me. I don't see how they'd be effective with actual filtration.

Red370 · 04-01-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by efuseakay

But how well will those filters on the TS intake actually work? Those green foamy filters just scare me. I don't see how they'd be effective with actual filtration.

They dont last that long actually.

Z eliminator · 04-01-2010, 07:52 AM

I tested the stillen intakes on my 370 sport 7 AT. I have a dyno run for every Mod that i have done to the car.
Base line 265. RWHP SAE The car was bone stock
Stillen G 3 284.9 RWHP SAE ( bumper was on the car ) NO tuning stock ecu
It made these #s after 3 pulls on the dyno.
19.9 RWHP SAE gain.
I also watched the intake temps with the Cobb and they dropped from 80 degres to 60.1 when the car was on the dyno. the room temp was 58 to 59 degres.
The stillen G3 is a great intake $ for RWHP best mod that you can do.

Red370 · 04-01-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

I tested the stillen intakes on my 370 sport 7 AT. I have a dyno run for every Mod that i have done to the car.
Base line 265. RWHP SAE The car was bone stock
Stillen G 3 284.9 RWHP SAE ( bumper was on the car ) NO tuning stock ecu
It made these #s after 3 pulls on the dyno.
19.9 RWHP SAE gain.
I also watched the intake temps with the Cobb and they dropped from 80 degres to 60.1 when the car was on the dyno. the room temp was 58 to 59 degres.
The stillen G3 is a great intake $ for RWHP best mod that you can do.

370Zsteve · 04-01-2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

I tested the stillen intakes on my 370 sport 7 AT. I have a dyno run for every Mod that i have done to the car.
Base line 265. RWHP SAE The car was bone stock
Stillen G 3 284.9 RWHP SAE ( bumper was on the car ) NO tuning stock ecu
It made these #s after 3 pulls on the dyno.
19.9 RWHP SAE gain.
I also watched the intake temps with the Cobb and they dropped from 80 degres to 60.1 when the car was on the dyno. the room temp was 58 to 59 degres.
The stillen G3 is a great intake $ for RWHP best mod that you can do.

That's a lot of gain for an intake, regardless of brand. Dynos typically produce wildly fluctuating numbers even on the same day. For example, I have seen the local dyno produce numbers that vary by +10hp simply by letting the engine cool for 15 minutes after a pull. Saw that happen the other day on 3 different cars.

Z eliminator · 04-01-2010, 08:35 AM

My engine made 260.1 when it was hot.
I know make 320.1 rwhp with the G3 , berk cats. Stillen CBE. underdrive pully. and my own cobb tune on 94 sunoco.
With 292 rwhp it ran the 1/4 in 12.8009 .
On my car there is a 5 hp loss on a hot engine.

JvKintheUSA · 04-01-2010, 09:47 AM

1% loss in HP for every 10 degrees in temperature increase they say, so CAI should be better. I have R2C short ram intakes installed and did not notice any real gains, but also no loss in power - just louder. Since I'm still trying to pay down my debt, I have no money for a dyno run. Someone wants to sponsor me?

View Poll Results: Which intake do you think will come out on top?
Stillen G3	73	47.40%
Top Secret	48	31.17%
They will be essentially equal in HP gain.	33	21.43%
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04-01-2010, 07:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,660 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 20	I tested the stillen intakes on my 370 sport 7 AT. I have a dyno run for every Mod that i have done to the car. Base line 265. RWHP SAE The car was bone stock Stillen G 3 284.9 RWHP SAE ( bumper was on the car ) NO tuning stock ecu It made these #s after 3 pulls on the dyno. 19.9 RWHP SAE gain. I also watched the intake temps with the Cobb and they dropped from 80 degres to 60.1 when the car was on the dyno. the room temp was 58 to 59 degres. The stillen G3 is a great intake $ for RWHP best mod that you can do. __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

04-01-2010, 08:35 AM	#14 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,660 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 20	My engine made 260.1 when it was hot. I know make 320.1 rwhp with the G3 , berk cats. Stillen CBE. underdrive pully. and my own cobb tune on 94 sunoco. With 292 rwhp it ran the 1/4 in 12.8009 . On my car there is a 5 hp loss on a hot engine. __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

04-01-2010, 09:47 AM	#15 (permalink)
JvKintheUSA Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 465 Drives: 2013 Shelby GT500 Rep Power: 429	1% loss in HP for every 10 degrees in temperature increase they say, so CAI should be better. I have R2C short ram intakes installed and did not notice any real gains, but also no loss in power - just louder. Since I'm still trying to pay down my debt, I have no money for a dyno run. Someone wants to sponsor me? __________________ Last edited by JvKintheUSA; 04-01-2010 at 06:43 PM.

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03-30-2010, 12:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 225	So many keep saying heat soak would lower the HP numbers. From what I have read, however, they drove this car around time in stop go traffic, then dynoed it again and got the same results. I would think that would be a true real world test. Don't hate fellas..... BTW - I find it interesting that Stillen has not chimed in....

03-30-2010, 09:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 225	Well, the way I see it, they are still in a good spot. Their Intake still makes very nice power and for half the cost. No pride lost at all. I am still torn on what I will do when time for my intake. If TS is like the Porsche Cayman S of intakes, Stillen is like the 370Z of intakes. Different strokes for different folks....

03-30-2010, 11:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
geterdone Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Yukon, Oklahoma Posts: 27 Drives: None Rep Power: 17	1100 dollars. That is a freaking joke. I have owned many sports cars and that is just freaking ridiculous. I though I was nuts when I paid 550 for the intake on my Z06.

03-31-2010, 10:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
efuseakay Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The DAYNGA ZONE! Posts: 404 Drives: 2010 G37xS Sedan Rep Power: 17	But how well will those filters on the TS intake actually work? Those green foamy filters just scare me. I don't see how they'd be effective with actual filtration.