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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance If you are going to compare a s/c to turbo power, the turbo will always be ahead. With a supercharger you will always have parasitic

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Old 06-11-2012, 02:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If you are going to compare a s/c to turbo power, the turbo will always be ahead. With a supercharger you will always have parasitic loses and produce less power compared to a turbo.

With a roots blower for example it takes 45hp to produce 10psi of boost. A centrifugal blower is more efficient but still not as good as a turbo(s).
Yeah, I understand that. Learned that lesson way back in my S2000 days. I'm not interested in being a dyno queen so bragging numbers aren't my end. My primary concerns are (1) drivability; (2) performance; and (3) cost. I like the two different options for different reasons.

I have driven an SC Z and really liked the powerband. Since I like to do track days, the more controllable torque is appealing. Boost onset mid-corner = looking the wrong way down the track. Also, with a car that has traction trouble stock, I wonder about the viability of lots of torque with this platform. The SC kits also tend to be a bit less expensive and a bit less intrusive on the car in terms of installation (e.g. being able to keep crash beam).

But, I love turbo cars too. Love the sound, love the push in the seat, love the efficiency, etc. While I had kind of given up on other turbo kits out there for various reasons, yours piqued my interest because of the apparent ease of installation, cost and potential performance. With a single turbo, I have fewer parts that may fail, fewer fittings that may come loose, etc. Plus, from my Suby days, I love twin scroll design.

Anyway, the point is, my decision on what kit to go with ultimately is multifaceted. Not just power. I look forward to seeing your results.
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I've been trollin this thread for a while now... but, with this so close to being ready to go i really need to get a spare 10Gs in the bank quick lol
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I've been trollin this thread for a while now... but, with this so close to being ready to go i really need to get a spare 10Gs in the bank quick lol
Did I miss something? When did the cost jump to 10k?

Not complaining... Just wondering....
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I hope to be able to answer more of your important questions in 2 weeks, but In terms of intrusiveness Sasha did a great job. I couldn't believe how little he removed, not to mention all the spash shields were left intact. Yes, the crash bar was removed, but this intercooler will absorb as much if not more then the crash bar. The intercooler is nice and beefy
sorry to tell you but that intercooler will never ever absorber as much is a crash bar no way!

sent from my SAMSUNG SINGLE TURBO SGH1717
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sorry to tell you but that intercooler will never ever absorber as much is a crash bar no way!

sent from my SAMSUNG SINGLE TURBO SGH1717
Why is that? They are both aluminum and roughly the same thickness. I figured with all the extra fins in the middle that it would absorb as much? I have no clue though, don't plan on getting in an accident lol


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10 grand sounds good right about now....
After watching Sasha build the kit, and hearing how many of the 350 guys install themselves I would cut out the install and do it myself. You should see the install manuals he sends out, they are works of art themselves.
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I think he's summoning up kit cost, installation, and tuning
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Yeah just ballpark covering everything I would need, not just the kit sitting in my den in boxes lol Especially since i would still need the exhaust too considering the kit only works with specifics haha
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10 grand sounds good right about now....
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....I hear it's easier than camber arms.....
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OHHHHHHHHH SNAP! It’s on now James….

Now as far as the install goes, I would encourage customers to do the install themselves. I would say the hardest part of the install would be the fuel pump…the rest is rather simple. The injectors are plug and play, with pigtails, so once the plenum is removed it is a 30 minute job to get the rails out, new injectors in and the fuel rails back in the car.

The exhaust part of the install is as involved as installing a set of test pipes, and uses the same amount of hardware (nuts/bolt/washers…ect). The down pipe is all V-bands and it really doesn’t get simpler than that.

There are only 3 pipes between the turbo and the intercooler, and those would be very hard to mess up. In the engine bay there are 4 pipes, and each end has a label on it indicating location. The entire IC system uses only 10 couplers, so it is very simple and straight forward.

Oil filter relocation and oil cooler are also straight forward, and again each line has a label at each end indicating location. So if you can read 4 word sentences you are good to go.

The scavenge pump/bracket will come pre-assembled so it will be a bolt on (two bolts and that’s it).
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Wish i had the ability, or tools to do something like this on my own... or even the room in my driveway to do it haha

as a side question, just cause i have never done FI on a car that wasnt already stock from the factory with a turbo, what would be pointless bolt-ons to buy that FI would just require removing? Intakes, test pipes etc? I would rather not spend money on things that are just going to come off in a year lol
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Wish i had the ability, or tools to do something like this on my own... or even the room in my driveway to do it haha

as a side question, just cause i have never done FI on a car that wasnt already stock from the factory with a turbo, what would be pointless bolt-ons to buy that FI would just require removing? Intakes, test pipes etc? I would rather not spend money on things that are just going to come off in a year lol
You can buy the F.I exhaust system and that is about it. Don't bother with test pipes, oil pan spacer, anything intake related and oil cooler (included in kit).

Not sure how much the OEM clutch can handle, and how much power you are after, but that may be a good investment.
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Thanks for the information... If im going to do it, id like to be around the 400-500whp mark honestly. Very excited for you dyno results obviously for that reason once you get it tuned lol So yeah, i know im definately going to need a better clutch.
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Have any of you guys ever heard of a Nissan dealership installing and tuning an aftermarket turbo? I took the Z (Zoe) in for an oil change talked to the service guy and we got on the subject of FI. And this is what he told me. But he did say it had to be where GTR were sold in my. Case it would be Lubbock TX. about an hour away.
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