Billet VQ37HR block.

Spooler · 12-11-2019, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Marky broke his in 5th when the rear tires bounced over a bump.

Yeap, that is a classic shock load. Hooked up, Bump, Spin, don't let off, Hooked up hard again. Broke...

Spooler · 12-11-2019, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

It can take a decent pounding when I broke mine it was after countless powershifting/flatfoot shifting. I use to beat the hell out of it sounded like a sledgehammer almost 20k miles. You have more power than what I had back in the day time will tell how long it will last.

I will just laugh if it happens. Call the wife to come get me so I can come home to get my truck and trailer.

Elmo370z · 12-11-2019, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

LOL, I guess you didn't understand what I was saying. If you have a high HP Z and are at a sticky drag strip. You will break the input shaft when you shift to the next gear. Already happened.

You can adjust power inbetween shifts and rpms. Motec professing is very fast. Isn’t ideal but can be done for testing and to work out all the bugs

phunk · 12-11-2019, 12:00 PM

At less than $2000 brand new, these transmissions are pretty expendable. It can be replaced for a similar cost as your tires for an event.

Hotrodz · 12-11-2019, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

After seeing this thread, he's out there guarding it with his life.

My black hole will bottom out or should I say super nova with the build I am doing and my car is a track car so I am already way over the top!

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Hotrodz · 12-11-2019, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

LMAO, he already told me. His money tree is just about bare. He was watering and fertilizing it when I texted.

Spooler speaks the truth!

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phunk · 12-11-2019, 01:03 PM

This stuff is expensive, but so is moving on.

(begin off topic rant)

I bought a new Mustang GT 6MT in 2015. I modified it similar to how my 370z was at the time (bolt-on FI, wheels/tires, mild suspension for daily driving, fuel system and tuning, exhaust/clutch). It made 815whp at 12psi on the stock engine, and at that power its about as dependable as a 370z at maybe 725whp stock engine. Similar performance between the 2 as well (it just barely inched away from Justins Z running at 700whp).

Lately I have considered selling that Mustang. Based on the going rate for one setup like it, I stand to lose $35,000 - $38,000 in depreciation (car+mods-sale value). I have about 24,000 miles on that car. So I paid 35+ to drive that car for 24,000 miles, and it really doesnt have much on a 370z, if anything at all. A slightly better stereo and nicer seats. If I had at least purchased the auto, it would be quite a bit quicker at the drag strip. But mine is manual trans.

Moving to other platforms can look like a better value from the outside sometimes. And they might have been, had you not already owned a 370z. But imagine what I could have done with 65 grand into my 370z over 4 years. I think I would have had to start stuffing wads of cash in the glovebox to even put that kind of money into it. It certainly would have been a much wiser business decision for me.

Sometimes it sounds insane to put 30-40g into building a engine and trans setup for your car... but that is merely the depreciation you will eat moving on to a new platform. We just need something like this billet block (or figure out a complete solution for the cast block) so that we can truly reap the benefits of building these, spending some quality time behind the wheel. Dealing with broken transmissions, axles, whatever you can think of... sounds like a complete JOY to me, because that means the glass ceiling has been broken. That other stuff is more typical and expected costs of racing.

(end off topic)

Chrisc3 · 12-11-2019, 01:44 PM

Idk 5.0 + a whipple dont sound to bad right now. jkjk Ive had my z 5yrs and love it. Ive been saving for years and been on this forum for as long as ive had the car. Cant decide on a very well rounded street/occasional track car or just all out drag roll racing monster either way I hope yall saved some room in that rabbit hole.

Spooler · 12-11-2019, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisc3

Idk 5.0 + a whipple dont sound to bad right now. jkjk Ive had my z 5yrs and love it. Ive been saving for years and been on this forum for as long as ive had the car. Cant decide on a very well rounded street/occasional track car or just all out drag roll racing monster either way I hope yall saved some room in that rabbit hole.

Come on Down and waller in it with us.

Spooler · 12-11-2019, 02:12 PM

I think we are at the point of a solution. I have talked to several folks. We shall see. This is my research phase of my next motor build. I want to have everything at the machine shop in 1 1/2 yrs. The billet block sure would help move things along and we would get to skip the step of finding out when the stock block tanks.

Spooler · 12-11-2019, 02:15 PM

By the way. One car already has what I think the solution will be. He has been on the sidelines due to a broken input shaft and then a freaking car wreck with an 18 wheeler. MA-Motorsports built his car.

Spooler · 12-11-2019, 02:18 PM

We can't leave out SOHO. They have 2 somethings in the works. Guess we will find out when they know for sure.

Elmo370z · 12-11-2019, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

This stuff is expensive, but so is moving on.

(begin off topic rant)

I bought a new Mustang GT 6MT in 2015. I modified it similar to how my 370z was at the time (bolt-on FI, wheels/tires, mild suspension for daily driving, fuel system and tuning, exhaust/clutch). It made 815whp at 12psi on the stock engine, and at that power its about as dependable as a 370z at maybe 725whp stock engine. Similar performance between the 2 as well (it just barely inched away from Justins Z running at 700whp).

Lately I have considered selling that Mustang. Based on the going rate for one setup like it, I stand to lose $35,000 - $38,000 in depreciation (car+mods-sale value). I have about 24,000 miles on that car. So I paid 35+ to drive that car for 24,000 miles, and it really doesnt have much on a 370z, if anything at all. A slightly better stereo and nicer seats. If I had at least purchased the auto, it would be quite a bit quicker at the drag strip. But mine is manual trans.

Moving to other platforms can look like a better value from the outside sometimes. And they might have been, had you not already owned a 370z. But imagine what I could have done with 65 grand into my 370z over 4 years. I think I would have had to start stuffing wads of cash in the glovebox to even put that kind of money into it. It certainly would have been a much wiser business decision for me.

Sometimes it sounds insane to put 30-40g into building a engine and trans setup for your car... but that is merely the depreciation you will eat moving on to a new platform. We just need something like this billet block (or figure out a complete solution for the cast block) so that we can truly reap the benefits of building these, spending some quality time behind the wheel. Dealing with broken transmissions, axles, whatever you can think of... sounds like a complete JOY to me, because that means the glass ceiling has been broken. That other stuff is more typical and expected costs of racing.

(end off topic)

Edgar Charles poe

Mr.Squeeze · 12-11-2019, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler

By the way. One car already has what I think the solution will be. He has been on the sidelines due to a broken input shaft and then a freaking car wreck with an 18 wheeler. MA-Motorsports built his car.

I'm sure this will be kept top secret.

If someone comes out later and be like we O.Ring the heads and blocked to create a better seal I will

Hotrodz · 12-11-2019, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

This stuff is expensive, but so is moving on.

(begin off topic rant)

I bought a new Mustang GT 6MT in 2015. I modified it similar to how my 370z was at the time (bolt-on FI, wheels/tires, mild suspension for daily driving, fuel system and tuning, exhaust/clutch). It made 815whp at 12psi on the stock engine, and at that power its about as dependable as a 370z at maybe 725whp stock engine. Similar performance between the 2 as well (it just barely inched away from Justins Z running at 700whp).

Lately I have considered selling that Mustang. Based on the going rate for one setup like it, I stand to lose $35,000 - $38,000 in depreciation (car+mods-sale value). I have about 24,000 miles on that car. So I paid 35+ to drive that car for 24,000 miles, and it really doesnt have much on a 370z, if anything at all. A slightly better stereo and nicer seats. If I had at least purchased the auto, it would be quite a bit quicker at the drag strip. But mine is manual trans.

Moving to other platforms can look like a better value from the outside sometimes. And they might have been, had you not already owned a 370z. But imagine what I could have done with 65 grand into my 370z over 4 years. I think I would have had to start stuffing wads of cash in the glovebox to even put that kind of money into it. It certainly would have been a much wiser business decision for me.

Sometimes it sounds insane to put 30-40g into building a engine and trans setup for your car... but that is merely the depreciation you will eat moving on to a new platform. We just need something like this billet block (or figure out a complete solution for the cast block) so that we can truly reap the benefits of building these, spending some quality time behind the wheel. Dealing with broken transmissions, axles, whatever you can think of... sounds like a complete JOY to me, because that means the glass ceiling has been broken. That other stuff is more typical and expected costs of racing.

(end off topic)

As I have said it is cheaper to keep her especially because she is still sexy, doesn't talk back or cheats on me. I have thoughts all the time about other cars but at $50k plus there is nothing I want to put me in debt to lose more money. Anyway I slice it I am way ahead building a motor than buying something newer, slower car that will not excite my senses as much unless I want to drop six figures....and I don't. I am in month 12 of my wait and I am in no rush as I am hopeful that a solution will be soon daylighted.

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12-11-2019, 12:00 PM	#64 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,654 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	At less than $2000 brand new, these transmissions are pretty expendable. It can be replaced for a similar cost as your tires for an event. JARblue, Rusty, Hotrodz and 3 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

12-11-2019, 01:03 PM	#67 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,654 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 944523	This stuff is expensive, but so is moving on. (begin off topic rant) I bought a new Mustang GT 6MT in 2015. I modified it similar to how my 370z was at the time (bolt-on FI, wheels/tires, mild suspension for daily driving, fuel system and tuning, exhaust/clutch). It made 815whp at 12psi on the stock engine, and at that power its about as dependable as a 370z at maybe 725whp stock engine. Similar performance between the 2 as well (it just barely inched away from Justins Z running at 700whp). Lately I have considered selling that Mustang. Based on the going rate for one setup like it, I stand to lose $35,000 - $38,000 in depreciation (car+mods-sale value). I have about 24,000 miles on that car. So I paid 35+ to drive that car for 24,000 miles, and it really doesnt have much on a 370z, if anything at all. A slightly better stereo and nicer seats. If I had at least purchased the auto, it would be quite a bit quicker at the drag strip. But mine is manual trans. Moving to other platforms can look like a better value from the outside sometimes. And they might have been, had you not already owned a 370z. But imagine what I could have done with 65 grand into my 370z over 4 years. I think I would have had to start stuffing wads of cash in the glovebox to even put that kind of money into it. It certainly would have been a much wiser business decision for me. Sometimes it sounds insane to put 30-40g into building a engine and trans setup for your car... but that is merely the depreciation you will eat moving on to a new platform. We just need something like this billet block (or figure out a complete solution for the cast block) so that we can truly reap the benefits of building these, spending some quality time behind the wheel. Dealing with broken transmissions, axles, whatever you can think of... sounds like a complete JOY to me, because that means the glass ceiling has been broken. That other stuff is more typical and expected costs of racing. (end off topic) JARblue, cv129, Rusty and 10 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 12-11-2019 at 01:16 PM.

12-11-2019, 01:44 PM	#68 (permalink)
Chrisc3 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: texas Posts: 123 Drives: 2009 370z white Rep Power: 10	Idk 5.0 + a whipple dont sound to bad right now. jkjk Ive had my z 5yrs and love it. Ive been saving for years and been on this forum for as long as ive had the car. Cant decide on a very well rounded street/occasional track car or just all out drag roll racing monster either way I hope yall saved some room in that rabbit hole. Rusty, Hotrodz, Spooler and 2 others like this.

12-11-2019, 02:15 PM	#71 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,502 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	By the way. One car already has what I think the solution will be. He has been on the sidelines due to a broken input shaft and then a freaking car wreck with an 18 wheeler. MA-Motorsports built his car. Mr.Squeeze, Rusty and Hotrodz like this.

12-11-2019, 02:18 PM	#72 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,502 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	We can't leave out SOHO. They have 2 somethings in the works. Guess we will find out when they know for sure. Mr.Squeeze, Rusty and Hotrodz like this.

12-11-2019, 02:12 PM	#70 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,502 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	I think we are at the point of a solution. I have talked to several folks. We shall see. This is my research phase of my next motor build. I want to have everything at the machine shop in 1 1/2 yrs. The billet block sure would help move things along and we would get to skip the step of finding out when the stock block tanks.

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