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solidus 05-02-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3848804)
Timing chains are good to go. Checking VVEL now.

You do realize if the VVEL solenoids are off thats me doing a Jedi mind trick on you.
They got my diff set up and dammit if the Z1 cover isn't a problem with the Motordyne exhaust. Has to have fins shaved.

Spooler 05-02-2019 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3848850)
You do realize if the VVEL solenoids are off thats me doing a Jedi mind trick on you.
They got my diff set up and dammit if the Z1 cover isn't a problem with the Motordyne exhaust. Has to have fins shaved.

You mean the VVEL motors? My car has more of a lope than it should. I am thinking they are off. Guess they will find out when they check them.

Rusty 05-02-2019 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3848850)
You do realize if the VVEL solenoids are off thats me doing a Jedi mind trick on you.
They got my diff set up and dammit if the Z1 cover isn't a problem with the Motordyne exhaust. Has to have fins shaved.

Standard procedure with pipes that tuck close to the Z1 diff cover.

Rusty 05-02-2019 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3848874)
You mean the VVEL motors? My car has more of a lope than it should. I am thinking they are off. Guess they will find out when they check them.

Shouldn't that been checked when assembling the motor?

Hotrodz 05-02-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3848897)
Shouldn't that been checked when assembling the motor?

There you go pouring salt in an open wound!

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Rusty 05-02-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3848904)
There you go pouring salt in an open wound!

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Gee....,... just stating the obvious.

Spooler 05-02-2019 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3848897)
Shouldn't that been checked when assembling the motor?

I am not sure who installed them. The machine shop may have. They assembled the Long block. Carl is going to check them and see.

Spooler 05-02-2019 12:43 PM

I wish I had the factory service manual in front of me so I could read the procedure. I'll go to my old dealership I worked at one day and bumb the manual for a bit.

Spooler 05-02-2019 12:46 PM

I wonder if it is my old dead pedal problem raising it's weary head. Every now and then I would get a dead pedal. The throttle response was a pig. I could only get about 1/4 to 1/2 throttle. No codes, nothing. Shut the car off and restart, same thing. I would have to disconnect the drivers side throttle body and re-connect. That would fix it.

Spooler 05-02-2019 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3848906)
Gee....,... just stating the obvious.

It's double check/triple check time. Everything get's checked again. Just like the timing chains. They were checked and all is good in that department.

Spooler 05-02-2019 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3848922)
I wonder if it is my old dead pedal problem raising it's weary head. Every now and then I would get a dead pedal. The throttle response was a pig. I could only get about 1/4 to 1/2 throttle. No codes, nothing. Shut the car off and restart, same thing. I would have to disconnect the drivers side throttle body and re-connect. That would fix it.

Just got this forwarded to Carl. This could very well be my issue. Ugg, I forgot all about it.

solidus 05-02-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3848918)
I am not sure who installed them. The machine shop may have. They assembled the Long block. Carl is going to check them and see.

VVEL Solenoids should have been canibalized from your original motor to the longblock. They can marginally be set up using Ecutek or UPREV but to do it perfectly balanced Consult should be used. I told you about mine being off .150 bank 1 to .2?? bank 2.

Spooler 05-02-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3848978)
VVEL Solenoids should have been canibalized from your original motor to the longblock. They can marginally be set up using Ecutek or UPREV but to do it perfectly balanced Consult should be used. I told you about mine being off .150 bank 1 to .2?? bank 2.

They have done many of these builds. I am sure they know what to do. It'
s just my car being a pain in the arse because it is my car. LOL, that's how I roll. LMAO.

madwi 05-02-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3848980)
Its just my car being a pain in the arse because it is my car. LOL, that's how I roll. LMAO.

The car doesnt fall too far from the tree :icon17: :p

Rusty 05-02-2019 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3849012)
The car doesnt fall too far from the tree :icon17: :p

The car is like him. Grumpy.

Spooler 05-02-2019 09:46 PM

Not funny guys. It stopped being funny back in October of last year.

Rusty 05-02-2019 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3849058)
Not funny guys. It stopped being funny back in October of last year.

I feel for you. Believe me. Nothing like blowing up a fresh rebuilt motor with less then 200 miles on it. :shakes head: and have the first wife with one foot out of the door saying she had enough of this chit. :eek:

URBiN~HURMiT 05-02-2019 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3848692)
That's what I had in mind. Only direct the discharge into the hog pen. :eek:

Remind me not to come to a BBQ if you invite me ...

URBiN~HURMiT 05-02-2019 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3848850)
You do realize if the VVEL solenoids are off thats me doing a Jedi mind trick on you.
They got my diff set up and dammit if the Z1 cover isn't a problem with the Motordyne exhaust. Has to have fins shaved.

Throw the shaved fins into the hog pen ...

(ps. I had to shave some fins off the Z1 diff cover to clear the AAM 3" exhaust as well)

Rusty 05-02-2019 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by URBiN~HURMiT (Post 3849081)
Remind me not to come to a BBQ if you invite me ...

I only do that when I'm hiding the dead bodies. I don't let the pile get too big.

Spooler 05-05-2019 07:05 PM

It doesn't look like I will have the car back before Zdayz. Sorry guys. I will be implementing plan B.

Hotrodz 05-05-2019 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3849879)
It doesn't look like I will have the car back before Zdayz. Sorry guys. I will be implementing plan B.

That sucks!

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Rusty 05-05-2019 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3849879)
It doesn't look like I will have the car back before Zdayz. Sorry guys. I will be implementing plan B.

Bummer! Like Bobby said too. That sucks. :(

jchammond 05-05-2019 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3849904)
That sucks!

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:iagree:

Spooler 05-05-2019 08:36 PM

What would suck would be If I had to drive the dually but I don't. Corvette Grand Sport, here we come.

Spooler 05-05-2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3849904)
That sucks!

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We can raise the roof next year with both of our rides.

Spooler 05-07-2019 12:56 PM

Just ordered driver and passenger side throttle bodies since I have had issues with them before. MA should have them by Thursday, I hope. After talking with Jon this appears to be the problem to the best of my knowledge. Leave it up to me to have the strange issues.

Rusty 05-07-2019 01:18 PM

You getting the big bores?

JARblue 05-07-2019 01:20 PM

:iagree:

Hotrodz 05-07-2019 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3850369)
You getting the big bores?

They are not worth the money on an FI build.

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sirnixalot 05-07-2019 01:33 PM

At this point OEM/known working good all the way. No use introducing another variable.

Hotrodz 05-07-2019 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sirnixalot (Post 3850377)
At this point OEM/known working good all the way. No use introducing another variable.

Even on a NA build it is only 3 or 4 horsepower by itself. Not worth it when you are boosted even with the supporting mods as everything else will out preform the contribution of larger throttle bodies.

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JARblue 05-07-2019 01:46 PM

You guys must be talking about the 70mm TBs. Maybe he was looking at 120mm.

Just need something like this lol
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/q7sAA...IeE/s-l225.jpg

Hotrodz 05-07-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3850384)
You guys must be talking about the 70mm TBs. Maybe he was looking at 120mm.

Just need something like this lol
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/q7sAA...IeE/s-l225.jpg

He is doing OEM.

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Spooler 05-07-2019 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3850369)
You getting the big bores?

Noop, Factory Nissan parts. No need for forced induction.

Spooler 05-07-2019 02:40 PM

By the way, these suckers are not cheap. Thank goodness I still get good prices at where I use to work. There is also a core charge for brand new factory units.
I guess Nissan rebuilds them and offer them on their value line.

I hope this fixes the problem. I am 90% sure it will. If not, that is one less thing to worry about.

madwi 05-07-2019 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3850400)
By the way, these suckers are not cheap. Thank goodness I still get good prices at where I use to work. There is also a core charge for brand new factory units.
I guess Nissan rebuilds them and offer them on their value line.

I hope this fixes the problem. I am 90% sure it will. If not, that is one less thing to worry about.

Fingers, toes and eyes crossed for ya, man. :tup:

Spooler 05-07-2019 09:46 PM

I just wanted everyone to know I will be doing good to get the new TB's to MA on Thursday. If by some chance they get them on the car and the lazy/Flat running issue is resolved I will be happy. If they can get the car on the Dyno Friday an confirm the car is good and get some numbers, I will be very happy. If they do, do not expect to see it at Zdayz. All the fine tuning will need to be done with cold starts, hot starts, etc. No since in rushing it now.

Spooler 05-08-2019 11:31 AM

New throttle bodies are in my hands. Will be shipping them out this afternoon.

Spooler 05-08-2019 01:54 PM

Everything is setup for the car to be back on the rollers Friday. UPS don't screw me now. I hope this fixes the issue.


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