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Originally Posted by TBatt ChaseZ I should be able to get to work on a spacer for you sometime next week. This week turned out to be busier than I

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Old 04-05-2017, 02:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I should be able to get to work on a spacer for you sometime next week. This week turned out to be busier than I thought. Do you want just the spacer or the whole kit including the idler pulley, bolt and washer?
Can you add the trimmed belt in there also? Then the "extra pulley" mod would be a complete kit.
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I should be able to get to work on a spacer for you sometime next week. This week turned out to be busier than I thought. Do you want just the spacer or the whole kit including the idler pulley, bolt and washer?
Thanks, yeah might as well do it as a kit. Easier that way. Been a crazy week here too I know how it goes.
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Bit the bullet and decided just to go for it. Was having IAT heat issues during tuning, while largely due to a blower bearing it left a bad taste in my mouth and decided I didn't want to have that in the back of my mind all the time. Instead I'll just out the pedal down whenever I want with no extra thought to it other than where I'm pointing lol
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Can you add the trimmed belt in there also? Then the "extra pulley" mod would be a complete kit.
That would work
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Bit the bullet and decided just to go for it. Was having IAT heat issues during tuning, while largely due to a blower bearing it left a bad taste in my mouth and decided I didn't want to have that in the back of my mind all the time. Instead I'll just out the pedal down whenever I want with no extra thought to it other than where I'm pointing lol
Awesome! Think it is the way to go. The independent R&D on this board between TBatt's "Belt Slip Kit" and Topz A2A kit is going to start driving up the price of used Stillen kits!! I wonder how many people off this board have already called them up like "Can I just buy a blower, manifold, and a bracket?"
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Awesome! Think it is the way to go. The independent R&D on this board between TBatt's "Belt Slip Kit" and Topz A2A kit is going to start driving up the price of used Stillen kits!! I wonder how many people off this board have already called them up like "Can I just buy a blower, manifold, and a bracket?"
You took the words right out of my mouth! And Stillen did show up on this thread awhile back...you know they are watching!

Just a to TopZ and all those who have been actively participating and contributing to this thread. I've been on this forum since 2009 and have never seen anything like it.
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TopZ is a good dude !

I hope Stillen isn't watching thread. I would rather TopZ finish developing full kit. He deserves it with all the work he has done. Would hate to see it stolen buy the big guys.

TopZ kit I didn't have to sign waver or send money order to keep off the books like Stillen does to there customers.

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You took the words right out of my mouth! And Stillen did show up on this thread awhile back...you know they are watching!

Just a to TopZ and all those who have been actively participating and contributing to this thread. I've been on this forum since 2009 and have never seen anything like it.

This is true...you are one of the OG members that have been on here since I joined in 2010. That was a time when a lot of vendors were so active on thr forum. When Fast Intentions threads had daily repsonses from Tony...way before FI even had a TT kit and only sold echaust components for the Z....and when guys had aspirations of breaking 350WHP on a Naturally Aspirated Z LOL.....

Within that time this forum has really grown and matured with awesome members who have shared their knowledge and skills. I've been a member of other car forums in the past and I have to sa....... by far this is the best forum I've been on. This is what a car Forum should be like......
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Can you add the trimmed belt in there also? Then the "extra pulley" mod would be a complete kit.
Sure can. I can offer the standard belt or the HD Fleet version (what I'm currently running).

I'll work up pricing it as a complete kit.
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Sure can. I can offer the standard belt or the HD Fleet version (what I'm currently running).

I'll work up pricing it as a complete kit.
Are those both Gates Green or is one green and the other standard something like that.
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Are those both Gates Green or is one green and the other standard something like that.
The K081088HD is the green one which is the fleet duty version. It is slightly thicker than the normal belt but for just a couple of bucks more = cheap insurance. I've got about 5K miles on my setup and it has worked great. The non HD belt is black.

The complete kit price looks like it will be $160 plus shipping.

The kit will have the following:
1ea. Custom made 6061 aluminum spacer
1ea. 12mmx1.75x50mm grade 8 bolt
1ea. 12mm washer
1ea. K081088HD belt modified to 7 rib
1ea. 54mm idler pulley

Please don't send in any orders just yet. I'm pretty much swamped until June with other work commitments (I'm in high demand this time of the year).
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The K081088HD is the green one which is the fleet duty version. It is slightly thicker than the normal belt but for just a couple of bucks more = cheap insurance. I've got about 5K miles on my setup and it has worked great. The non HD belt is black.

The complete kit price looks like it will be $160 plus shipping.

The kit will have the following:
1ea. Custom made 6061 aluminum spacer
1ea. 12mmx1.75x50mm grade 8 bolt
1ea. 12mm washer
1ea. K081088HD belt modified to 7 rib
1ea. 54mm idler pulley

Please don't send in any orders just yet. I'm pretty much swamped until June with other work commitments (I'm in high demand this time of the year).
If this picks up a full psi of boost then that is around 18whp. Pretty dang good power to dollar ratio.
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The K081088HD is the green one which is the fleet duty version. It is slightly thicker than the normal belt but for just a couple of bucks more = cheap insurance. I've got about 5K miles on my setup and it has worked great. The non HD belt is black.

The complete kit price looks like it will be $160 plus shipping.

The kit will have the following:
1ea. Custom made 6061 aluminum spacer
1ea. 12mmx1.75x50mm grade 8 bolt
1ea. 12mm washer
1ea. K081088HD belt modified to 7 rib
1ea. 54mm idler pulley

Please don't send in any orders just yet. I'm pretty much swamped until June with other work commitments (I'm in high demand this time of the year).
Tbatt....Did u make this kit because of ur belt slip? Did u get an increase on boost? Any Pros or Cons...or just Pros?
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Upgraded to the Tial and got the new 60* piping from Topz....Much better fit and a big improvement to the kits design....fits like a glove with no fighting the 45* coupler to the Volute. Thnx TopgunZ for the upgrade. The Tial is amazing....here are some pics....




Top view of the volute to new coupler angled to the 60* pipe



Bottom view of the 60* going to blower

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Tbatt....Did u make this kit because of ur belt slip? Did u get an increase on boost? Any Pros or Cons...or just Pros?
I was and still have a low boost problem. One idea was the belt was slipping and sure enough, when I took a temperature reading of the drive pulley it was about 50 degrees cooler after installing the additional idler which means the pulley was heating up due to slipping. I picked up some boost but the main problem is that I need to install the volute at a better angle. Right now I have a 90 degree elbow at the SC outlet and I think that is what is restricting the SC.

I was one of the first to install the A2A kit and did so without the instructions. By the time I had the instructions I was too far along to go back as time was running out on my build. This June the plan is to get back to work on the car and fix the volute position and also go to the 60 degree coupler and 2.75 downpipe along with a Tial BOV. I'll also be doing some improvements on the fuel pump. Got a bunch of CJM stuff to install.

After that I hope to finish up with Seb on the tune. The car runs and drives fine but the boost is still below 8psi and I'm running the 9psi pulley.

I've been reading up on SC and it seems that TopZ is correct in his design of his kit. SC do not like abrupt air flow changes at the intake or exhaust ports. It screws up the flow and can cause back pressure issues (what I'm pretty sure the 90 degree elbow is causing). TopZ design of using the air filter directly on the SC allows for a good straight shot into the intake and the original 45 degree coupler on the outlet does a good job of keeping the flow as straight out of the SC as possible given the room to work with.
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