Topgunz - air to air upgrade

Pauly Z · 04-19-2016, 03:10 PM

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EVOHUNTER · 04-19-2016, 03:35 PM

Hey topz, do you know the boost ill be seeing?

Is my 255 and 650cc going to hold up?

TopgunZ · 04-19-2016, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss370Z

Sorry for the "jump-in"!

The Air-suction point is in a warm place!

Do not you want to optimize the fresh intake air something?
A pipe laying in the front region of the front,
or in the left pane in the wheel!
Where the fresh air is still cool!

Just so my idea?!

Those are good ideas. But if you have an efficient air to air front mount then it cools off the intake anyway. With it being a little warmer coming in, it gets cooled all the same.

That doesn't work with water to air.

This is a much better design for getting air to your supercharger. I have several dyno sheets to prove that.

TopgunZ · 04-19-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER

Hey topz, do you know the boost ill be seeing?

Is my 255 and 650cc going to hold up?

Not sure. Your kit is different then mine. You might lose a little more boost from the bigger IC and the intake being different. Its hard to say.

Did they think you had enough when you tuned last fall? I am guessing you wouldn't have made it to redline with that and that pulley setup.

TopgunZ · 04-19-2016, 03:47 PM

That doesn't look good PaulyZ. So your kit is on the dyno? Any pics of how they routed all the piping?

EVOHUNTER · 04-19-2016, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Not sure. Your kit is different then mine. You might lose a little more boost from the bigger IC and the intake being different. Its hard to say.

Did they think you had enough when you tuned last fall? I am guessing you wouldn't have made it to redline with that and that pulley setup.

We were not sure because I only could rev to 5000 rpm without it cutting fuel and going insanely lean because of the loss of MAF voltage.

TopgunZ · 04-19-2016, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER

We were not sure because I only could rev to 5000 rpm without it cutting fuel and going insanely lean because of the loss of MAF voltage.

Honestly, with aggressive as you had been going I am almost certain you wouldn't have had enough fuel. Pump gas though right?

Pauly Z · 04-19-2016, 04:11 PM

Not on dyno yet cause we are waiting on a patch from Ecutek so we can get a base map to start.

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EliteXpress · 04-19-2016, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ84

Topgunz was spot on with figuring out what filter would work best with the air to air setup. Fits almost perfectly and sits in there very snug. From the front you can see that this setup will be getting plenty of cold air. For the filter to fit better and for piece of mind, I used a small 1/8"x 1/2" rubber spacer that I placed on the lip of the supercharger inlet before I slipped on the air filter. This just allowed for a much tighter grip.

Very nice choice/find on that filter!

The fit and finish is spot-on!

BOLIO 671 · 04-20-2016, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ84

Topgunz was spot on with figuring out what filter would work best with the air to air setup. Fits almost perfectly and sits in there very snug. From the front you can see that this setup will be getting plenty of cold air. For the filter to fit better and for piece of mind, I used a small 1/8"x 1/2" rubber spacer that I placed on the lip of the supercharger inlet before I slipped on the air filter. This just allowed for a much tighter grip.

Lookin good man.....Can't wait to u unleash the beast and get some data logs going....

TopgunZ · 04-20-2016, 08:20 AM

Yeah its been raining here. Supposed to be sunny and in the 70's this Saturday. I also have a dyno scheduled at 3pm on the 28th. We will see if I can break 550whp. I think I will.

JWillis72 · 04-20-2016, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER

Hey topz, do you know the boost ill be seeing?

Is my 255 and 650cc going to hold up?

Your not running E85 correct?

If not the 255 will be fine but you could run out of injector. When my car was 418 whp with 650cc injectors on the stock Stillen set up I was seeing around 85-90%. Before my blower ate itself I had a 2.75 on the supercharger and my 255 had no problem keeping up.

TBatt · 04-20-2016, 10:10 AM

Does anyone have any pictures showing the intercooler and an oil cooler. I'm trying to visualize how they will share the space up front. I'm going with the Z1 25 row and now the TopgunZ A2A setup. This will be a fresh install of the SC kit and the A2A and oil cooler.

TopgunZ · 04-20-2016, 10:56 AM

StillenZ84 just did this. He was telling me about it. I'm sure he will chime in here. I think he is working on buttoning up his install right now.

StillenZ84 · 04-20-2016, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt

Does anyone have any pictures showing the intercooler and an oil cooler. I'm trying to visualize how they will share the space up front. I'm going with the Z1 25 row and now the TopgunZ A2A setup. This will be a fresh install of the SC kit and the A2A and oil cooler.

Ill try to grab some pics but it is pretty tight. There is plenty of room between the radiator and new intercooler to mount it. What kind of gets in the way is that little power steering cooler. I was able to mount them where there is around 3/4"-1" in between them. I also have a trans cooler on the other side that had to be moved back about an inch.

04-19-2016, 03:10 PM	#241 (permalink)
Pauly Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Sylvester, Ga. Posts: 197 Drives: '10 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 11	Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk __________________ Custom Air to Air Stillen SC Setup, CJM S-1S FRS, ID1000 Injectors, Aeromotive 340 Stealth Pump, Test Pipes, Topspeed Exhaust, Z1 Oil Pan Spacer, Swift Springs, Adjustable Rear Camber Arms, 20 and 25mm Spacers, Custom Gauges, and Ecutek

04-19-2016, 03:35 PM	#242 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 14	Hey topz, do you know the boost ill be seeing? Is my 255 and 650cc going to hold up? __________________

04-19-2016, 03:47 PM	#245 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	That doesn't look good PaulyZ. So your kit is on the dyno? Any pics of how they routed all the piping? StillenZ84 likes this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-19-2016, 04:11 PM	#248 (permalink)
Pauly Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Sylvester, Ga. Posts: 197 Drives: '10 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 11	Not on dyno yet cause we are waiting on a patch from Ecutek so we can get a base map to start. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk __________________ Custom Air to Air Stillen SC Setup, CJM S-1S FRS, ID1000 Injectors, Aeromotive 340 Stealth Pump, Test Pipes, Topspeed Exhaust, Z1 Oil Pan Spacer, Swift Springs, Adjustable Rear Camber Arms, 20 and 25mm Spacers, Custom Gauges, and Ecutek

04-20-2016, 08:20 AM	#251 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	Yeah its been raining here. Supposed to be sunny and in the 70's this Saturday. I also have a dyno scheduled at 3pm on the 28th. We will see if I can break 550whp. I think I will. BOLIO 671 likes this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-20-2016, 10:10 AM	#253 (permalink)
TBatt Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 832 Drives: 2019 GT-R Rep Power: 20168	Does anyone have any pictures showing the intercooler and an oil cooler. I'm trying to visualize how they will share the space up front. I'm going with the Z1 25 row and now the TopgunZ A2A setup. This will be a fresh install of the SC kit and the A2A and oil cooler. __________________ RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE! Last edited by TBatt; 04-20-2016 at 10:12 AM. Reason: added oil cooler

04-20-2016, 10:56 AM	#254 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	StillenZ84 just did this. He was telling me about it. I'm sure he will chime in here. I think he is working on buttoning up his install right now. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

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