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EVOHUNTER 06-08-2016 08:54 AM

My car has been nothing of a headache.

I was installing some stuff last night, I removed my intake..

There was a loose piece of aluminum in there, this piece came from the 90 degree stillen hose that was used to hook up the bypass on the stock kit. this piece allows the 90 degree bend to stay at a 90.

To say the least, this piece let go, hit my impeller, my impeller blades are f'd...

im hoping I can still get away with driving it that way.. il have some pics up tonight.

Pauly Z 06-08-2016 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3494260)
My car has been nothing of a headache.

I was installing some stuff last night, I removed my intake..

There was a loose piece of aluminum in there, this piece came from the 90 degree stillen hose that was used to hook up the bypass on the stock kit. this piece allows the 90 degree bend to stay at a 90.

To say the least, this piece let go, hit my impeller, my impeller blades are f'd...

im hoping I can still get away with driving it that way.. il have some pics up tonight.

What?? That sucks. Are you talking about the 90 from the intake or the 1" bypass spot on the charge pipe?

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EVOHUNTER 06-08-2016 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Z (Post 3494262)
What?? That sucks. Are you talking about the 90 from the intake or the 1" bypass spot on the charge pipe?

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The 1" rubber hose that goes into the blower coupler and hooks to your bypass.

theres a little metal piece in there to retain the 90 degree, it came loose, hit my impeller :(

im going to try to clean them up with a dremel tonight.

Pauly Z 06-08-2016 09:33 AM

Talk about bad luck with that one. Sorry to hear that. Just another reason to get rid of the recerc stuff and go air to air.

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TerribleONE 06-08-2016 09:38 AM

Damn man sorry to hear about your problems

Hope you get it squared away soon.

Z&I 06-08-2016 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3494282)
The 1" rubber hose that goes into the blower coupler and hooks to your bypass.

theres a little metal piece in there to retain the 90 degree, it came loose, hit my impeller :(

im going to try to clean them up with a dremel tonight.

Damaged Impeller ??? I wouldn't chance trying to fix it with a dremel.

TBatt 06-08-2016 02:35 PM

I agree. The impeller balance is critical. Arbitrarily grinding it to smooth it will throw it out of balance. Send it Vortech for repair.

TopgunZ 06-08-2016 04:05 PM

I thought you ditched the sc coupler and went with a 3" intake in front of the wheel well.

EVOHUNTER 06-08-2016 04:11 PM

I do have the intake in the wheel well, I reused that stillen 90 degree to rec back into intake pipe.

Im kinda f'd, my dyno tune is on the 24th. and I wont see speciality z back until next year...

Vortech said 4 week turn around.

I don't trust anyone besides vortech touching this thing.

I might just leave it, maybe it will be ok.. ill post pics in a few hours.

if not, my car is down for a whole year.. again.

EVOHUNTER 06-09-2016 08:30 AM

So here it is, let me know what you guys think :(

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...pslwhmpz12.jpg

Chuck33079 06-09-2016 08:47 AM

That's not OK.

Ghostvette 06-09-2016 09:07 AM

:iagree:

Pull it and send it for professional repair. Sorry man...:icon14:

EVOHUNTER 06-09-2016 09:09 AM

I wondering how it will boost. if I could get through my tune on the 24th, with out it blowing up lol.. then I should be good to go.

Ill send it out after the tune and have it rebuilt.

Funny thing is last year, right before I put her away, I got a knock out of her, im pretty sure it was this hitting my impeller.

It boosted fine 3 weeks ago, tuned great beside my haltech sensor **** out.

im kinda stumped here..

I have a friggen impeller sitting beside me, SI trim impeller that I never got around to getting installed. problem is I cant find a single machineshop/ shop that will touch it with a ten foot pole. vortech was 4 weeks, I might just split this baby today, see if I can do this myself.

If this doesn't go good, ill buy a new head unit.. have this one rebuilt, sell it or maybe keep it?

Chuck33079 06-09-2016 09:18 AM

I wouldn't run it. What happens if a chunk of that comes loose when you're tuning and the motor gets a lungful of metal shavings?

TerribleONE 06-09-2016 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3495120)
I wouldn't run it. What happens if a chunk of that comes loose when you're tuning and the motor gets a lungful of metal shavings?

:iagree:

Not worth the risk IMO.

Ghostvette 06-09-2016 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3495115)

I have a friggen impeller sitting beside me, SI trim impeller that I never got around to getting installed. problem is I cant find a single machineshop/ shop that will touch it with a ten foot pole. vortech was 4 weeks, I might just split this baby today, see if I can do this myself.

If this doesn't go good, ill buy a new head unit.. have this one rebuilt, sell it or maybe keep it?

How long would it take to get a complete replacement? I'd go the new unit just so I could meet the tune date, then send this one for rebuild and either sell it with all the rebuild paperwork or keep it as a backup. :twocents:

TBatt 06-09-2016 09:50 AM

Do NOT spin the SC up with that broken impeller. If it comes apart you will have much more problems.

Seriously, the impeller balance is critical and if reaches max operating rpm it could come apart. I would remove the drive belt NOW!

As Ghostvette said, if the tune date is this critical you would be better off with a new SC which you should be able to get very quick.

Good luck and sorry that this happened.

Also, did you find the part that broke and the missing piece of the impeller blade? you don't want those parts ingested by the engine!.

EVOHUNTER 06-09-2016 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3495150)
Do NOT spin the SC up with that broken impeller. If it comes apart you will have much more problems.

Seriously, the impeller balance is critical and if reaches max operating rpm it could come apart. I would remove the drive belt NOW!

As Ghostvette said, if the tune date is this critical you would be better off with a new SC which you should be able to get very quick.

Good luck and sorry that this happened.

Also, did you find the part that broke and the missing piece of the impeller blade? you don't want those parts ingested by the engine!.

yeah I found the piece,


good news is.... the impeller is already changed. Super easy to do.

took my 15 minutes, the SCI trim was already marked for me so I lined up the marks and she went right in.

Now with the SCI trim my fuel wont hold up, but ill get sebz to set my limiter so I wont go lean and ill upgrade fuel this winter

TopgunZ 06-09-2016 02:27 PM

Isn't sci a step down? You will run rich not lean.

EVOHUNTER 06-09-2016 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3495346)
Isn't sci a step down? You will run rich not lean.

I screwed that up lol, theres an SI in there now.

milkcow500 06-09-2016 03:14 PM

How easy was it to swap out the impeller? I want to swap, but not willing to give up the car for another 3 weeks to send to Vortech...

Pauly Z 06-09-2016 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3493713)
Ive ordered a 1.96" idler pulley and I ordered 14 different gates gator belts.

Im going to tackle this idler pulley on the serp side tonight, Ill find which belt/ pulley that works and ill return the other belts.

Did you ever figure out what belt size to use?

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EVOHUNTER 06-09-2016 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by milkcow500 (Post 3495369)
How easy was it to swap out the impeller? I want to swap, but not willing to give up the car for another 3 weeks to send to Vortech...

Takes about 15 mins, remove volute, 5-6 allen key bolts,

tap off the volute with a rubber mallet, remove the screw on the impeller.

its slides right off.

EVOHUNTER 06-09-2016 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Z (Post 3495405)
Did you ever figure out what belt size to use?

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to be honest I haven't even got there yet, I have everything but im trying to get the car into a driveable state before I start working on other things, by this weekend I will know!

JWillis72 06-09-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER (Post 3495427)
Takes about 15 mins, remove volute, 5-6 allen key bolts,



tap off the volute with a rubber mallet, remove the screw on the impeller.



its slides right off.



Mine did not slide right off, we bent the hell out of it trying to get it off.


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EVOHUNTER 06-10-2016 08:38 AM

I was surprised to came off so easy!

I ended up reading a lot up on these V3's, a lot of the mustang guys are running this guys impeller. They are claiming there psi doubled down low, but lost a half to a full psi up top. which I don't care, I would love seeing more boost down lower.

He also offers 150 rebate if a before and after dyno sheet is provided.

Anyways I ordered it last night, 425 usd, 78$ for overnight shipping.

I ended up taking to him about this stuff for a hour, he does some great work, he even bores out your volutes, all kinds of stuff. this guy knows his way around Vortech, if we want more boost, this is the guy.

He said with the T trim volute, , machine scoll impeller (the impeller come right the edge of the intake volute) bearings, boring, 15 psi at 7000 rpm 56000 rpm.
1223$ for everything, not bad considering the 928 impeller is 528$



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milkcow500 06-10-2016 08:42 AM

Let me know how that goes. I'm going to run the SCI for now, but I'll def swap it out myself if that's all there is to it.

TopgunZ 06-10-2016 11:12 AM

Interesting but i have some concerns.

They dont make a V3 in a T trim.

15psi on what motor, the 3.7l? You could get 20psi out of this unit if you put it on a 2.0L and you couldnt get 10 out of it on a 6.2L. Its all a matter of how much displacement and backpressure there is to equal what the engine CANT ingest.

EVOHUNTER 06-10-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3495931)
Interesting but i have some concerns.

They dont make a V3 in a T trim.


15psi on what motor, the 3.7l? You could get 20psi out of this unit if you put it on a 2.0L and you couldnt get 10 out of it on a 6.2L. Its all a matter of how much displacement and backpressure there is to equal what the engine CANT ingest.

V3 unit with a swapped T trim Volute. impeller and so on.

http://www.superchargerrebuild.com/w...e-t-ccw-b.jpeg

he has the v3 with the t trim volute on his 2007 v6 mustang, its running 14-15psi.

They are different motors, so it may vary. But this will give use more PSI, no matter what way you look at it, While keeping the impeller rpm down at a safe level.


As you already know, we can get this thing up to 20 psi with a few pulleys, but with the impeller speeds, its extremely dangerous.

TopgunZ 06-10-2016 01:45 PM

Thats crazy. I have never seen a T-trim V3. Does he make them custom because unless Vortech just very recently released them, he must?

And the V3 with just the 9psi pulley at 7000 spins 53,000rpm which is the max rated by vortech. When you take it to redline at 7500 in our cars it spins at 56,000rpm.

If he is seeing 56k at 7000rpm then he has a more aggressive pulley setup then we do.

EVOHUNTER 06-10-2016 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3496022)
Thats crazy. I have never seen a T-trim V3. Does he make them custom because unless Vortech just very recently released them, he must?

And the V3 with just the 9psi pulley at 7000 spins 53,000rpm which is the max rated by vortech. When you take it to redline at 7500 in our cars it spins at 56,000rpm.

If he is seeing 56k at 7000rpm then he has a more aggressive pulley setup then we do.

Yes its completely custom, he fits the T trim volute on the v3, he matches a HUGE impeller, its crazy how much bigger it is. the impeller actually sits flush with the supercharger intake, where ours now it like sunk in a inch.

Vortech does not do this.

TopgunZ 06-10-2016 02:49 PM

So are you going to try this T trim? That would be awesome!

EVOHUNTER 06-10-2016 03:42 PM

I was hoping you would hahahha

but yeah, over the winter im doing this with a return system.

For this year, just his impeller.

Pauly Z 06-10-2016 03:48 PM

If it's bigger, will it fit in our car?

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EVOHUNTER 06-10-2016 03:52 PM

hard to say man, if I end up doing this. ill make it fit lol

Pauly Z 06-10-2016 04:18 PM

Well I just picked up a 54mm idler pulley. Now I just need to figure out a belt. Pulley looks like it will be perfect. Seb wants to wait till I get the Tial hooked up before continuing with tuning. Right now he has the a/f around the 11's but it gets down to 10.5 around 6500 rpms.

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EVOHUNTER 06-11-2016 08:18 AM

Hey guys I ordered the TIAL, got it yesterday.

Bought the pipe Topz recommended.

The clamp and the flange are way to small for the pipe.

do you have part #'s, so I can get the right clamp and TIAL flange.

also, anyone looking for a V3 to frankenstien I found this :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301978243253 good deal, needs seals.

Pauly Z 06-11-2016 08:51 AM

I got the small clamp too that is the one for that model. You have to get the 50mm clamp .

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TopgunZ 06-11-2016 10:32 AM

Yeah the pipe has a 50mm flange, so you need the tial 50mm flange and a 50mm clamp.

Pauly Z 06-12-2016 04:15 PM

Got the Tial installed today! You all weren't joking, this thing does sound like a jet.

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