Window Tint peeling issue

rudi · 03-01-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

I no longer tint, but when I did I always had the door panels removed, and custom—not pre-cut—tint applied so that the tint was at the glass edges, and way below the interior window sill scrubber. Never had one issue with peeling, ever.

I would never let anyone remove my door panels. Every other car I had that had the door panels removed for whatever reason, it came back with a rattle resulting from the trim clips being broken off. Even with my 370 when I had the reversing sensors installed they broke off clips in the back. I could hear the broken bits flying from side to side when taking a corner.

SoCal 370Z · 03-01-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rudi

I would never let anyone remove my door panels. Every other car I had that had the door panels removed for whatever reason, it came back with a rattle resulting from the trim clips being broken off. Even with my 370 when I had the reversing sensors installed they broke off clips in the back. I could hear the broken bits flying from side to side when taking a corner.

You just need to find those who have the experience, and the aptitude to do so. I've even had fixed rear quarter windows popped-out of their weatherstripping, and then tinted so there were no edges showing at all—looked entirely factory.

vipor · 03-01-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

You just need to find those who have the experience, and the aptitude to do so. I've even had fixed rear quarter windows popped-out of their weatherstripping, and then tinted so there were no edges showing at all—looked entirely factory.

Or remove the panels yourself as I did.

Low Price and Quality are usually mutually exclusive.

labk888 · 03-12-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor

a proper tint shop will slide a 1/2" or more of the tint into the door to prevent that problem. have had 0 issues with my tint, even accidentally rolled down the windows a few times when i first got it.

Where did you get your tint done?

PapoZalsa · 03-12-2010, 09:54 PM

I had that issue with my passenger window tint even that I don't even roll the window down. The shop took care of it a week ago. So far no problems.

SmoothZ · 04-07-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny3.7

You need to tell the tint shop (or dealer) to remove the door panel so they can get the tint down deep past the panel. otherwise when the widow seals after you have closed the door, it just chews up those corners.

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Originally Posted by vipor

a proper tint shop will slide a 1/2" or more of the tint into the door to prevent that problem. have had 0 issues with my tint, even accidentally rolled down the windows a few times when i first got it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

I no longer tint, but when I did I always had the door panels removed, and custom—not pre-cut—tint applied so that the tint was at the glass edges, and way below the interior window sill scrubber. Never had one issue with peeling, ever.

That's how my guy did it. I watched him meticulously custom cut the tint for each window. The guy's pretty cool, especially for letting me hang around to help and watch.

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Originally Posted by rudi

I would never let anyone remove my door panels. Every other car I had that had the door panels removed for whatever reason, it came back with a rattle resulting from the trim clips being broken off. Even with my 370 when I had the reversing sensors installed they broke off clips in the back. I could hear the broken bits flying from side to side when taking a corner.

Luckily, I was able to take off the panels for the guy because he knew my windows had that window feature when opening and closing doors. Good thing I did, because I found a loose bolt that Nissan never properly placed when they did some work on that door.

LunaZ · 04-19-2010, 07:08 AM

Here's some thoughts on the tint install for our cars:

- My installer put a clamp on the button that turns the interior light on and off, and makes the window go up and down when you open or close the door. This kept the window up during the install.
If you were concerned about the dreaded peel, you could somehow rig the button to stay depressed. Duct tape?

- My installer removed the top trim from the door to make it easier for him to apply the tint well below the window seal. This was achieved by popping off the trim plate behind the door handle and undoing one bolt. It was quick and painless and made his job much easier and the final outcome cleaner.
Sorry I didn't take a pic of that part.

Slynky · 04-19-2010, 09:38 PM

Got mine done today. Will wait to see if problems occur. When I explained about the problem, he said it was no big deal and (I didn't know this) that some Mustangs (I think that's what he said) have the same "auto-window" function as the Z. They put tape to fool the door (and keep the window up) and put the edge of the film below the top of the door trim. He acted like it was no big deal and nothing to worry about, so time will tell. They are the ones who did both our RSXs and people would sometimes ask me if the RSX came from the factory like that.

Anyway...crossing my fingers.

PapoZalsa · 04-19-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

Luckily, I was able to take off the panels for the guy because he knew my windows had that window feature when opening and closing doors. Good thing I did, because I found a loose bolt that Nissan never properly placed when they did some work on that door.

The guy that did mine just disabled the window mechanicism so the window stayed up. So far no issues when it was redone. About two months now.

pulpz · 04-20-2010, 10:30 AM

My passenger peeled. Installer redid it . defeated the switch so the window stayed up. Parked the car for four days. So far no issues after a few weeks.

antman22 · 06-10-2010, 07:25 PM

LOL, decided to bring this thread back from the dead.

So, as you know, I took back to my dealership to get the tint fixed. First time- passenger side peeling. Second time- passenger side had bubbles in the attempt to fix it. The excuse they gave me was that the cold weather didn't allow it to properly set. Ok fine, I'll believe that. So I wait until the summer hits. In TX, we're hitting 95+ degree weather right now, so its the perfect time to get it done. I take it back to get redone and they say they'll go ahead and redo all the windows (I pointed out bubbles in some other windows too).

Fantastic.

I dropped it off earlier this week to get the windows redone and the drivers seat TSB taken care of. Since they had to order the washers for the seat, it would take a few days. No problem, that allows the car to sit in the sun and the tint to set properly.

I pick up the car today and what do I notice? They only retinted one window- the driver side. Ironically, that's the one that was perfect to begin with. I tell the head dealer there and all he says is "bring it back in and we'll take care of it." F THAT. I will not be subjected to additional disappoint and inconvenience. This is two more times than I wanted to bring my car in for something that should have been done right the first time.

On the way home I also hear a slight rattle in the driver side door. It wasn't there when I dropped it off. Absurd. I'm pissed.

I wrote an email to the dealer and told him that I'm not bringing it back and I'm just going to take it to a reputable tint shop here in Dallas. The amount of time wasted on something so trivial is beyond the cost of the original tint now. I don't think I will ever get anything serviced by Courtesy Nissan of Richardson again. I wrote a letter to Nissan corporate also, who knows what will come out of it, I would guess nothing. But at least it gave me an opportunity to vent.

Anyone know of a good tint shop in the Dallas area?

antman22 · 06-16-2010, 07:24 PM

hahahah, so i spoke to the service manager after he was contacted by nissan corporate and he was really eager to fix this. i decide to be nice and take it in. they redid it. it might actually be worse this time! there's bubbles, but i'll let the z sit in the sun to let it cure. i notice a few spots where it looks like its scratched however, as if the installer was applying it and whatever flat edge he was using got caught and stretched/scratched it. Courtesy Nissan is now comically horrible. I'll give it a few days though and let everything cure. Somehow I don't think the curing process can get rid of the scratches lol.

I guess the next step post-fail is to write another letter to Nissan and a letter to the BBB. Also gotta find a good tint installer in Dallas.

metz · 06-16-2010, 08:54 PM

I worked in a tint shop for many years, you might see what appears to be bubbles but is only trapped water/lubricant. If it doesn't clear up in a day or so in this heat then there's a problem. The scratches you see may just be from using the squeegee and not cleaning the window film after. When it drys up try cleaning the inside of the window with an ammonia free cleaner. If the lines don't come off then bring it back.

antman22 · 06-17-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by metz

I worked in a tint shop for many years, you might see what appears to be bubbles but is only trapped water/lubricant. If it doesn't clear up in a day or so in this heat then there's a problem. The scratches you see may just be from using the squeegee and not cleaning the window film after. When it drys up try cleaning the inside of the window with an ammonia free cleaner. If the lines don't come off then bring it back.

Thanks for the info, I know that there will be some bubbling after installation, the tint needs to set and cure, so I'm leaving the car out in the TX sun to give it a chance to heat up. There are a couple scuff marks that look like its from the squeegee, which can be easily cleaned. The scratch marks I see are pretty prominent, it looks like there might have been a bubble and the installer tried to push it out with the squeegee and it pulled the tint, causing a small tear/scratch. Looks like there are two or three small ones on the driver side and one on the driver side rear quarter panel.

What's hilarious is that the head dealer/manager at Courtesy said he "personally inspected it"...What a load of crap. It can't be THAT difficult to install tint can it?

metz · 06-17-2010, 03:12 PM

Honestly doing a really good job isn't very easy. For sure if they don't have an actual tint bay set up there. It's pretty easy to get small specks of trash in a job. If there's a tear that's crazy, it should've been ripped right off and replaced. It benefits the tinter to replace stuff immediately since the glue hasn't set yet. I'd force them to let you go elsewhere.

03-12-2010, 09:54 PM	#50 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4499	I had that issue with my passenger window tint even that I don't even roll the window down. The shop took care of it a week ago. So far no problems. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

04-19-2010, 07:08 AM	#52 (permalink)
LunaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 6,704 Drives: Project: a white one Rep Power: 512	Here's some thoughts on the tint install for our cars: - My installer put a clamp on the button that turns the interior light on and off, and makes the window go up and down when you open or close the door. This kept the window up during the install. If you were concerned about the dreaded peel, you could somehow rig the button to stay depressed. Duct tape? - My installer removed the top trim from the door to make it easier for him to apply the tint well below the window seal. This was achieved by popping off the trim plate behind the door handle and undoing one bolt. It was quick and painless and made his job much easier and the final outcome cleaner. Sorry I didn't take a pic of that part. __________________ 2009 370Z Sport/Touring/Navigation \| see my journal for mods facebook: Be my friend... or not.

04-19-2010, 09:38 PM	#53 (permalink)
Slynky Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: McDonough, GA Posts: 595 Drives: 2010 Red 370Z T/S/N Rep Power: 16	Got mine done today. Will wait to see if problems occur. When I explained about the problem, he said it was no big deal and (I didn't know this) that some Mustangs (I think that's what he said) have the same "auto-window" function as the Z. They put tape to fool the door (and keep the window up) and put the edge of the film below the top of the door trim. He acted like it was no big deal and nothing to worry about, so time will tell. They are the ones who did both our RSXs and people would sometimes ask me if the RSX came from the factory like that. Anyway...crossing my fingers. __________________ A veteran is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America," for an amount of "up to and including my life."

04-20-2010, 10:30 AM	#55 (permalink)
pulpz Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 281 Drives: 09 PG 370Z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 15	My passenger peeled. Installer redid it . defeated the switch so the window stayed up. Parked the car for four days. So far no issues after a few weeks. __________________ 2016 Cayman GTS 6MT / 2017 Q60 Sport / 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD / 2015 Lexus IS 350 AWD F-Sport (Sold) / 2009 PG 370Z Sport 6MT, (Sold) / 2003 SS 350Z Enthusiast 6MT (Sold)

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06-10-2010, 07:25 PM	#56 (permalink)
antman22 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 597 Drives: 09 PG 370z 7AT Rep Power: 16	LOL, decided to bring this thread back from the dead. So, as you know, I took back to my dealership to get the tint fixed. First time- passenger side peeling. Second time- passenger side had bubbles in the attempt to fix it. The excuse they gave me was that the cold weather didn't allow it to properly set. Ok fine, I'll believe that. So I wait until the summer hits. In TX, we're hitting 95+ degree weather right now, so its the perfect time to get it done. I take it back to get redone and they say they'll go ahead and redo all the windows (I pointed out bubbles in some other windows too). Fantastic. I dropped it off earlier this week to get the windows redone and the drivers seat TSB taken care of. Since they had to order the washers for the seat, it would take a few days. No problem, that allows the car to sit in the sun and the tint to set properly. I pick up the car today and what do I notice? They only retinted one window- the driver side. Ironically, that's the one that was perfect to begin with. I tell the head dealer there and all he says is "bring it back in and we'll take care of it." F THAT. I will not be subjected to additional disappoint and inconvenience. This is two more times than I wanted to bring my car in for something that should have been done right the first time. On the way home I also hear a slight rattle in the driver side door. It wasn't there when I dropped it off. Absurd. I'm pissed. I wrote an email to the dealer and told him that I'm not bringing it back and I'm just going to take it to a reputable tint shop here in Dallas. The amount of time wasted on something so trivial is beyond the cost of the original tint now. I don't think I will ever get anything serviced by Courtesy Nissan of Richardson again. I wrote a letter to Nissan corporate also, who knows what will come out of it, I would guess nothing. But at least it gave me an opportunity to vent. Anyone know of a good tint shop in the Dallas area?

06-16-2010, 07:24 PM	#57 (permalink)
antman22 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 597 Drives: 09 PG 370z 7AT Rep Power: 16	hahahah, so i spoke to the service manager after he was contacted by nissan corporate and he was really eager to fix this. i decide to be nice and take it in. they redid it. it might actually be worse this time! there's bubbles, but i'll let the z sit in the sun to let it cure. i notice a few spots where it looks like its scratched however, as if the installer was applying it and whatever flat edge he was using got caught and stretched/scratched it. Courtesy Nissan is now comically horrible. I'll give it a few days though and let everything cure. Somehow I don't think the curing process can get rid of the scratches lol. I guess the next step post-fail is to write another letter to Nissan and a letter to the BBB. Also gotta find a good tint installer in Dallas.

06-16-2010, 08:54 PM	#58 (permalink)
metz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 347 Drives: 05 Roush, 2010 40th Rep Power: 15	I worked in a tint shop for many years, you might see what appears to be bubbles but is only trapped water/lubricant. If it doesn't clear up in a day or so in this heat then there's a problem. The scratches you see may just be from using the squeegee and not cleaning the window film after. When it drys up try cleaning the inside of the window with an ammonia free cleaner. If the lines don't come off then bring it back.

06-17-2010, 03:12 PM	#60 (permalink)
metz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 347 Drives: 05 Roush, 2010 40th Rep Power: 15	Honestly doing a really good job isn't very easy. For sure if they don't have an actual tint bay set up there. It's pretty easy to get small specks of trash in a job. If there's a tear that's crazy, it should've been ripped right off and replaced. It benefits the tinter to replace stuff immediately since the glue hasn't set yet. I'd force them to let you go elsewhere.