New clutch time

BettyZ · 05-28-2019, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah

Didn't know that, and I had a 350! Surprised they made a similar mistake on the 370.

I, for one, am not surprised at all.

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SPDKING · 05-28-2019, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

If you'll remember the 350Z had some similar CSC issues with the internal OEM one and Nissan designed an external slave for later year models. The Z1 kit was based off that design. So it's not like Nissan hasn't done a major design change like this before...

Yes but there has to be reason why they went back to that, they aren't Porsche where they are stubborn and won't change a design.

-ZS-Carpenter · 05-29-2019, 04:32 AM

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To: Bill

The z1 road race kit will not work with the cmak, it has a odd ball pressure plate and uses an altima stock rigid clutch disk (very loud rattle in every gear under 2500) and is 240mm. The clutch sets up way to high and will hit the fork on the cmak kit.

We do not make 14lb steel flys as the only way to make them that light is to take away the thickness behind the disk where it needs it most for heat dissipation and strength.

The super street kit has a really strong exedy "racing ultra fiber" disk (not stock organic) 250mm, and 2700lb pressure plate, fly is 17.4 lbs and the pressure plate is a few pounds light than the one in the z1 kit so it will about even out and you will have really good setup.
This kit is somewhat aggressive and very accurate.

Joe

So back to the Zspeed stage 3 kit maybe. It's roughly the same rotational mass as going with the Z1 kit. Or stay with the 14lb FW and pair it with Joes clutch for an even lighter combo. I'll have to drink this over for a day or 2.

Rusty, Since the Z1 FW is in your sights do you have any heat concerns. I know you'll run your car much longer and harder than I probably ever will.

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I'm going with Joe's steel flywheel (thought it was 17 lbs, not 18 but w/e). He recommended it to me even when I asked for the lightest one possible. Not buying anything Z1 anymore, so their flywheel is out.

The page says 18 but Joe says 17.4. I was just going off their site but it is lighter than they advertise.

Spooler · 05-29-2019, 11:01 AM

This is the clutch I am running.

ATS Spec II Triple Plate Carbon Clutch Set - 370Z Z34 / G37 V37 / VQ37HR - Corner3 Motorsports

-ZS-Carpenter · 05-29-2019, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

This is the clutch I am running.

ATS Spec II Triple Plate Carbon Clutch Set - 370Z Z34 / G37 V37 / VQ37HR - Corner3 Motorsports

Really nice and way way out of budget

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Spooler · 05-29-2019, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter

Really nice and way way out of budget

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How much are you going to spend on a clutch and CMAK together. This clutch kit comes with a CSC relocation kit. You don't need a triple or even a twin. A single would be more in your price range. MA sells them.

ATS Spec II Single Plate Carbon Clutch Set - 370Z Z34 / G37 V36 / VQ37VHR - Corner3 Motorsports

Rusty · 05-29-2019, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

How much are you going to spend on a clutch and CMAK together. This clutch kit comes with a CSC relocation kit. You don't need a triple or even a twin. A single would be more in your price range. MA sells them.

ATS Spec II Single Plate Carbon Clutch Set - 370Z Z34 / G37 V36 / VQ37VHR - Corner3 Motorsports

What's funny. I click on the link with my laptop. It goes to the Single plate clutch. I use my phone. It goes to the Triple plate clutch.

jchammond · 05-29-2019, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

What's funny. I click on the link with my laptop. It goes to the Single plate clutch. I use my phone. It goes to the Triple plate clutch.

You know we all have to try it; phone goes to single ATS Spec 2 & so does iPad

Price is same on both; from 479.50-604.50

Rusty · 05-29-2019, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

How much are you going to spend on a clutch and CMAK together. This clutch kit comes with a CSC relocation kit. You don't need a triple or even a twin. A single would be more in your price range. MA sells them.

ATS Spec II Single Plate Carbon Clutch Set - 370Z Z34 / G37 V36 / VQ37VHR - Corner3 Motorsports

Total rotating weight is 40 lbs. Hmmmmm

Spooler · 05-29-2019, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Total rotating weight is 40 lbs. Hmmmmm

You can only get a twin or a triple with the lightweight flywheel. Single is only one option.

Joe@ZSpeed · 06-04-2019, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Total rotating weight is 40 lbs. Hmmmmm

That's heavier than most regular kits... Clutch 18-20lbs, Fly 17.5lbs...

JARblue · 05-29-2019, 12:52 PM

I mentioned both the Fidanza and Z1 options. He didn't recommend either one. He finally stopped selling the Fidanza one (hardware issues). And I'd already heard negative things on the Z1 (too thin). In the end he saved me a few bucks going with his 17lb one

JARblue · 05-29-2019, 01:20 PM

Not really comparable. The ATS single is over $1000 more than the ZSpeed Stage 3 kit with CMAK I picked up. That ATS is

though...

Spooler · 05-29-2019, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Not really comparable. The ATS single is over $1000 more than the ZSpeed Stage 3 kit with CMAK I picked up. That ATS is

though...

If I was staying NA I would probably just use what Joe recommended. He has always had great support on here. I didn't know that you could get in with everything for that price. That is not bad at all.

-ZS-Carpenter · 05-29-2019, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

If I was staying NA I would probably just use what Joe recommended. He has always had great support on here. I didn't know that you could get in with everything for that price. That is not bad at all.

Joes stage 3 kit with cmak, cmc, FW, clutch is 1550. Another 300 for the pedal, 200~ for the mount and fuid and a couple hundred on misc tools and equipment. Should be all in between 2200-2300

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Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,111 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684394	This is the clutch I am running. ATS Spec II Triple Plate Carbon Clutch Set - 370Z Z34 / G37 V37 / VQ37HR - Corner3 Motorsports Rusty likes this.

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	I mentioned both the Fidanza and Z1 options. He didn't recommend either one. He finally stopped selling the Fidanza one (hardware issues). And I'd already heard negative things on the Z1 (too thin). In the end he saved me a few bucks going with his 17lb one Spooler likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	Not really comparable. The ATS single is over $1000 more than the ZSpeed Stage 3 kit with CMAK I picked up. That ATS is though... __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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