Billet Oil Pump Gears and Backing Plate - Group Buy Interest??

gbrettin · 02-26-2016, 01:16 PM

What other items would be needed to spin higher RPM's other than these gears and tune?

gomer_110 · 02-26-2016, 01:26 PM

better crankshaft, valve spring upgrade

gbrettin · 02-26-2016, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

better crankshaft, valve spring upgrade

So the oil pump can pump enough oil at 8500rpm providing the vehicle has a better crankshaft (de-stroked?), titanium springs, and the billet gears?

Rusty · 02-26-2016, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

So the oil pump can pump enough oil at 8500rpm providing the vehicle has a better crankshaft (de-stroked?), titanium springs, and the billet gears?

Plus a good dampener (ATI). Not one of those lightened one that are made from aluminum. Be a good idea to get one of phunk's baffled oil pans too.

gomer_110 · 02-26-2016, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

So the oil pump can pump enough oil at 8500rpm providing the vehicle has a better crankshaft (de-stroked?), titanium springs, and the billet gears?

The "better" crankshaft means made from better steel and given a high quality heat treatment. The OEM crank develops stress cracks/fractures when spun at high RPMs.

gbrettin · 02-26-2016, 03:41 PM

I'm interested but this sounds like a next year project for me.

Total D · 02-26-2016, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Well i guess you just need to start testing and post the results. Sounds like a great product. Opening up the block to get to oil gears, doesn't seem like something worth doing on a product that hasnt seen any time.on at the VHR platform.

That's the plan. Most people wanting these gears and back plate, will be people in the middle of motors builds or this is a purchase getting ready for one.

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

So the oil pump can pump enough oil at 8500rpm providing the vehicle has a better crankshaft (de-stroked?), titanium springs, and the billet gears?

Correct, as long as the supporting mods are there, the pumps will be fine. Add an ATI dampener and CJM oil pan, then you should be good to go.

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Plus a good dampener (ATI). Not one of those lightened one that are made from aluminum. Be a good idea to get one of phunk's baffled oil pans too.

Exactly!

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

I'm interested but this sounds like a next year project for me.

Time to get it is when they are ready

, that way when you do the build, you'll have it ready.

We are just trying to pick up where CJM left off and produce something for the community, that will address the issues the stock and Nismo pumps have.

ValidusVentus · 02-28-2016, 01:28 AM

sub'd. Damn coming across this now. Bought a Nismo pump a few months ago -not yet installed- and this will likely make it essentially worthless.

I have no intention of raising my redline over 8k, ever, just bought for reliability. Still at 7500.

Total D · 02-28-2016, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ValidusVentus

sub'd. Damn coming across this now. Bought a Nismo pump a few months ago -not yet installed- and this will likely make it essentially worthless.

I have no intention of raising my redline over 8k, ever, just bought for reliability. Still at 7500.

PM sent bud.

In short, the gears and back plate will work with your pump, should you want to purchase the items.

Z eliminator · 02-29-2016, 10:08 AM

They are working on my 4.5 stroker,
would be nice to have a better oil pump in it.

Z

Total D · 03-01-2016, 09:18 PM

Okay guys, here's the run down of how everything will work out.

Pricing is as if you're providing your oil pump. So, we will leave it up to you, to whether or not you want to run a new pump or just send yours in. I can provide new pumps, if you decide that is the route you want to go.

Pricing is as follows (includes pump modifications, gears, and back plate). A minimum of 10 will need to be sold to make this happen. A 50% deposit will be taken, so that we can move forward with the gears and back plate, remaining balance due when ready to ship.

Qty 10 = $850
Qty 20 = $775

Retail will be $900 after the initial group buy is done. Again this includes pump modifications, billet gears, and billet back plate.

GB List

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I'll keep this list updated as time progresses.

Thanks,
Jeremiah

Chuck33079 · 03-01-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Total D

Okay guys, here's the run down of how everything will work out.

Pricing is as if you're providing your oil pump. So, we will leave it up to you, to whether or not you want to run a new pump or just send yours in. I can provide new pumps, if you decide that is the route you want to go.

Pricing is as follows (includes pump modifications, gears, and back plate). A minimum of 10 will need to be sold to make this happen. A 50% deposit will be taken, so that we can move forward with the gears and back plate, remaining balance due when ready to ship.

Qty 10 = $850

Qty 20 = $775

Retail will be $900 after the initial group buy is done. Again this includes pump modifications, billet gears, and billet back plate.

GB List

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

I'll keep this list updated as time progresses.

Thanks,

Jeremiah

So this will be available after the group buy? It's unlikely I can jump in right now, but I'm definitely interested down the line.

Total D · 03-01-2016, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by andy_meng1024

What's the price on gears and back plate only? Thanks.

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If the 10 pieces are met, you're looking at $730 for the gears and backplate. Then, $850 after the group buy. So, you're only spending $120 more for us to put it all together and modify the pump, plus it gives me better quality control over the whole process.

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

So this will be available after the group buy? It's unlikely I can jump in right now, but I'm definitely interested down the line.

The goal is to keep these in production, uit it's definitely a numbers thing. I'm more concerned with getting the first 10 done, so we can make this a reality. I understand what you mean though. Let me know when you're ready and we can go from there.

Rusty · 03-01-2016, 11:29 PM

Price for a complete pump set-up? Pump, gears, backing plate, etc?

derraj06 · 03-01-2016, 09:34 PM

Hey Jeremiah, we've been chatting about this on fb a bit. If Phunk thinks this is suitable I'll join the group buy. I've got the baffled pan and ATI damper already, have some plans im working through to build a very fun NA engine which will include a billet crank. Seems like that's what the people here want to see along with your pump. I need to price some new pumps to look at total cost but this may solve one of the bigger question marks in my plan.

02-26-2016, 01:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
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02-26-2016, 03:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,304 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589452	I'm interested but this sounds like a next year project for me. Total D likes this.

02-28-2016, 01:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
ValidusVentus Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Washington State Posts: 400 Drives: #18 Z34 Rep Power: 25	sub'd. Damn coming across this now. Bought a Nismo pump a few months ago -not yet installed- and this will likely make it essentially worthless. I have no intention of raising my redline over 8k, ever, just bought for reliability. Still at 7500. __________________ Mods: Dedicated caged track car, lots of things. \|\|\| Valkyrie Autosport \|\|\| Last edited by ValidusVentus; 02-28-2016 at 02:01 AM.

02-29-2016, 10:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,660 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 21	They are working on my 4.5 stroker, would be nice to have a better oil pump in it. Z Total D likes this. __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

03-01-2016, 09:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
Total D Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: USA Posts: 159 Drives: 03 Nissan 350z PPW M Rep Power: 6727	Pricing!! Okay guys, here's the run down of how everything will work out. Pricing is as if you're providing your oil pump. So, we will leave it up to you, to whether or not you want to run a new pump or just send yours in. I can provide new pumps, if you decide that is the route you want to go. Pricing is as follows (includes pump modifications, gears, and back plate). A minimum of 10 will need to be sold to make this happen. A 50% deposit will be taken, so that we can move forward with the gears and back plate, remaining balance due when ready to ship. Qty 10 = $850 Qty 20 = $775 Retail will be $900 after the initial group buy is done. Again this includes pump modifications, billet gears, and billet back plate. GB List 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. I'll keep this list updated as time progresses. Thanks, Jeremiah __________________ Jeremiah Heidner \| Suckerpunch Motorsports LLC P:318-542-6822 Jeremiah@suckerpunchmotorsports.com 2003 Twin turbo 350z under construction 1500hp \| 2016 Lexus RCF 435rwhp \| 2017 Raptor 400rwhp

03-01-2016, 11:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
Rusty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 70 Posts: 35,579 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684440	Price for a complete pump set-up? Pump, gears, backing plate, etc? __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

03-01-2016, 09:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
derraj06 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 406 Drives: MB 370z Rep Power: 14	Hey Jeremiah, we've been chatting about this on fb a bit. If Phunk thinks this is suitable I'll join the group buy. I've got the baffled pan and ATI damper already, have some plans im working through to build a very fun NA engine which will include a billet crank. Seems like that's what the people here want to see along with your pump. I need to price some new pumps to look at total cost but this may solve one of the bigger question marks in my plan. Total D likes this.

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