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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan I'm assuming you're trying to say 0.7 or 0.07? Anyway, toe in the rear helps stabilize the rear end at speed, making it more driver friendly

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Old 04-02-2013, 06:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm assuming you're trying to say 0.7 or 0.07?

Anyway, toe in the rear helps stabilize the rear end at speed, making it more driver friendly to low skill drivers (most 370z owners, though likely not most people on this forum necessarily).

Also, and on this point I am not 100% clear as to how it relates to our rear suspension specifically, but in most independent setups, toe is added or removed under compression.

For example, in the front, toe is added on compression, so it is common for "racers" to spec toe out on the front so that under braking into corner entry, your wheels are as straight as possible.

I think the inverse may be true in the rear. That is to say, under compression (acceleration) toe is removed (meaning toe OUT is added). If this is the case, Nissan would spec toe IN because it would serve twofold
  1. Add stability when cruising at speed
  2. Straighten the drive wheels out under hard acceleration.

Again, I could be wrong on that second part, but for sure, it adds stability at speed that isn't necessary for a skilled driver on a race track.

EDIT: I will say for completeness sake, it also helps with bump-steer in the rear, as it tries to push the wheel towards the car's center of gravity when one or both wheels are "upset". Another thing a "racer" will want to fine tune for themselves to suit their driving style.
Yes the rear toe is in so that during hard acceleration wheels are straight.

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Yes the rear toe is in so that during hard acceleration wheels are straight.

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Yeah, I was pretty sure on this point, but I hate to mislead anyone if I'm wrong.

I also would like to go on record and say I'm tired of shops in America insisting upon giving toe specs in INCHES of toe, since that measurement can vary wildly depending on the overall diameter of the wheel currently mounted on the vehicle.

Let's just do degrees of toe, those never change, no matter how you measure it.

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So the shop removed the spring and lubed up the insulator hoping to stop the creaking and so far its much better, I can still hear a "click" whenever going up driveways slowly, but that's it and it's better than the "creaking" I was getting before. As long as it doesn't get worse than the "click" I'll be fine with that and live with it.
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Yes the rear toe is in so that during hard acceleration wheels are straight.

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Does this mean if there is zero toe in the front then toe will be out during hard acceleration?
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I agree Kamispeed is the Shi*, that's where I got my swift springs came with toe bolts.
I did have to get both rear camber arms, toe bolts and needed front control arms also. I went with Z1's front control arms.
I love the way it handles now and the stance as well.
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I agree Kamispeed is the Shi*, that's where I got my swift springs came with toe bolts.
I did have to get both rear camber arms, toe bolts and needed front control arms also. I went with Z1's front control arms.
I love the way it handles now and the stance as well.
Well I'm hoping I won't need any camber arms and can get it back to factory spec without..
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