Steel rotors on 370z?

Botaine · 10-20-2021, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

The real question is why does it even matter to you? You're not doing time attack. You'll never be able to quantify (much less notice) the weight loss on the street even during spirited driving. The car is plenty capable as is.

I can tell the difference between when I have a spare tire in the car and when I don't so I'm pretty sure I will be able to tell the difference if the rotors are 30lb lighter from using a material lighter in total than iron. It would make even more of a difference on the rotors because the engine has to rotate them directly just to make the car move. I don't think there is a lighter material available for the base trim rotors. To get lighter rotors it sounds like I would have to first upgrade to the akebono brakes and swap in some carbon fiber rotors that would cost 15 grand for a set... Hmm not worth it. Was just hoping someone made steel rotors or that there were more options for light rotors at a reasonable price. It's really just for ***** and giggles. To keep myself entertained really.

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Botaine · 10-20-2021, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

Man you drive an automatic, stock Z base model that is not used in any performance driving situation

Get your stock replacement rotors and pads and let's back off this bench racing talk

If you want to talk actual braking performance upgrades, head to the track forum and they'll tell you to get new lightweight 18, sticky tires, a better pad compound, 2 piece rotors, sport calipers or better, some better fluid and SS lines, and ducting, along with coilovers and the SPL package

All of which you aren't gonna do

So why are we playing around?

Go to autozone, spend a couple bucks, and enjoy your trip to school/grocery store

Just looking to make the ultimate commuter/grocery getter without breaking the bank. Most upgrades won't make any difference for that. There aren't even any tracks where I live.

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OptionZero · 10-20-2021, 03:36 PM

it's absolutely ridiculous that you're talking about the marginal performance benefit of rotors when you are doing absolutely no performance driving, you are being a total bench racing poser

if you DID want to drive the car fast, there's way more crap you'd need to learn and worry about then ******* rotors

You drive your car on the street with no performance context, just replace your brakes with autozone stuff and put the bench racing crap away

Botaine · 10-20-2021, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

it's absolutely ridiculous that you're talking about the marginal performance benefit of rotors when you are doing absolutely no performance driving, you are being a total bench racing poser

if you DID want to drive the car fast, there's way more crap you'd need to learn and worry about then ******* rotors

You drive your car on the street with no performance context, just replace your brakes with autozone stuff and put the bench racing crap away

Why are you assuming I don't drive my car hard occasionally? I didn't feel it necessary to explain everything I've done to the car in terms of straight line performance.

DrBacon · 10-20-2021, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

it's absolutely ridiculous that you're talking about the marginal performance benefit of rotors when you are doing absolutely no performance driving, you are being a total bench racing poser

if you DID want to drive the car fast, there's way more crap you'd need to learn and worry about then ******* rotors

You drive your car on the street with no performance context, just replace your brakes with autozone stuff and put the bench racing crap away

I don't know who **** in your cornflakes this morning but come on man, it's his car, he's perfectly allowed to run a more performance brake setup if he so chooses without justification to you or anyone else.

I don't track my car yet I opted for the lightweight z1 rotors, are you going to call the performance car police on me too?

Rusty · 10-20-2021, 03:58 PM

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abm89 · 10-20-2021, 04:08 PM

Before this thread gets shut down...

I have 2 piece rotors on all four corners. The only way you will feel the weight difference is on the track, IF you have track experience. You'll feel a greater difference in how the car handles by installing lighter wheels. That's money better spent on building a nice daily driver anyway.

I cannot, under any circumstance, recommend someone buying a 2 piece, steel, or carbon rotor kit for street use only.

Rusty · 10-20-2021, 06:17 PM

Got to post the cat.

Rusty · 10-20-2021, 06:23 PM

Couldn't find anyone who makes a steel brake rotor for the Z. Did find out the you have to use pads made for steel rotors. Because of the different friction coefficient.

Spooler · 10-20-2021, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by abm89

Before this thread gets shut down...

I have 2 piece rotors on all four corners. The only way you will feel the weight difference is on the track, IF you have track experience. You'll feel a greater difference in how the car handles by installing lighter wheels. That's money better spent on building a nice daily driver anyway.

I cannot, under any circumstance, recommend someone buying a 2 piece, steel, or carbon rotor kit for street use only.

I could tell the difference when I put on 2-piece rotors on all 4 corners. But that is just me. You don't have to be on the track to be able to tell the difference.

abm89 · 10-20-2021, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I could tell the difference when I put on 2-piece rotors on all 4 corners. But that is just me. You don't have to be on the track to be able to tell the difference.

Maybe it's because i did it after the wheels, that and other sketchy aero testing parts going on the car around the same time

JARblue · 10-20-2021, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Botaine

I can tell the difference between when I have a spare tire in the car and when I don't

And what difference does it make?

JARblue · 10-20-2021, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Botaine

I don't think there is a lighter material available for the base trim rotors. To get lighter rotors it sounds like I would have to first upgrade to the akebono brakes

Correct.

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Originally Posted by Botaine

and swap in some carbon fiber rotors that would cost 15 grand for a set...

Incorrect. Grab a set of Akebono calipers and buy a set of Z1 2pc rotors and some pads to go with. Not expensive at all. Do what makes you happy man

OptionZero · 10-21-2021, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBacon

I don't know who **** in your cornflakes this morning but come on man, it's his car, he's perfectly allowed to run a more performance brake setup if he so chooses without justification to you or anyone else.

I don't track my car yet I opted for the lightweight z1 rotors, are you going to call the performance car police on me too?

Post more about it, and I’m happy to make fun of you

The problem ISNT putting performance parts on a street car - it’s doing so and pretending it’s about performance

I have a carbon varis hood that was almost 2 grand. It probably has a positive cooling effect but I ain’t got any problem sayin I got it because it looks cool

Homeboy posting about rotor material providing a difference when he ain’t going any faster than the Prius makin the same trip to the store

Honesty man.

Tractionless · 10-29-2021, 09:05 AM

OP,

High carbon rotors will make for more initial bite and greater thermal capacity and they're cheap. They may be available for the base brakes, I'm not fully certain as I have Sport brakes.

Also running Stoptech street pads, SS lines, MC brace and RBF fluid. Night and day over OE responsiveness, feel and thermal capacity. Very little dust.

10-20-2021, 03:36 PM	#33 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,270 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214102	it's absolutely ridiculous that you're talking about the marginal performance benefit of rotors when you are doing absolutely no performance driving, you are being a total bench racing poser if you DID want to drive the car fast, there's way more crap you'd need to learn and worry about then ******* rotors You drive your car on the street with no performance context, just replace your brakes with autozone stuff and put the bench racing crap away __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

10-20-2021, 04:08 PM	#37 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,391 Drives: 370Z, Z900RS, T120 Rep Power: 64765	Before this thread gets shut down... I have 2 piece rotors on all four corners. The only way you will feel the weight difference is on the track, IF you have track experience. You'll feel a greater difference in how the car handles by installing lighter wheels. That's money better spent on building a nice daily driver anyway. I cannot, under any circumstance, recommend someone buying a 2 piece, steel, or carbon rotor kit for street use only. 2011 Nismo#91 and Rusty like this. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

10-20-2021, 06:23 PM	#39 (permalink)
Rusty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 70 Posts: 35,578 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684440	Couldn't find anyone who makes a steel brake rotor for the Z. Did find out the you have to use pads made for steel rotors. Because of the different friction coefficient. Botaine likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

10-29-2021, 09:05 AM	#45 (permalink)
Tractionless A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Atlantic SE Posts: 1,363 Drives: '10 K23 ST 7AT Rep Power: 30527	OP, High carbon rotors will make for more initial bite and greater thermal capacity and they're cheap. They may be available for the base brakes, I'm not fully certain as I have Sport brakes. Also running Stoptech street pads, SS lines, MC brace and RBF fluid. Night and day over OE responsiveness, feel and thermal capacity. Very little dust. __________________ Toys Not Tots

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