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It seems that the general consensus is to run a stiff sway bar up front and a soft or no rear sway bar in back. Is this set up good

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Old 05-16-2017, 04:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It seems that the general consensus is to run a stiff sway bar up front and a soft or no rear sway bar in back.

Is this set up good for any situation or only good for specific ones (ie. track, autocross only)?
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It's good for any situation when you turn your car hard.

Smart *** comment aside, the Z will benefit from a stiffer front end with any spirited driving.
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It's good for any situation when you turn your car hard.

Smart *** comment aside, the Z will benefit from a stiffer front end with any spirited driving.
Thanks. Yeah I wanna go on full stiff front sway but wanted to make sure it applies to any driving condition either DD, spirited or track.
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I just added the Eibach front sway bar, set to the stiffest setting and it's perfect for a daily. It feels like how it should have came from the factory.
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I daily a Hotchkis front bar 50 miles a day. I love it whether I am driving to work or going out to play. The cheapest place to get one from is Amazon.
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I do both DD and track with the Hotchkis front bar. Love it for both.
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So should I just buy an eibach front + spl links and call it a day?

or is there anything to be gained by going for a full set front+rear? are we talking 5-10% difference? I do value the highly stock compliance at the limits on uneven pavement as it's a daily setup.

Thoughts appreciated!!!
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I'm probably not the fastest here (only 2 track days so far) but I personally actually like aftermarket front and rear (I use stillen) and strangely I think I may even soften the front (one softer than middle) after first track day with oem coils/shocks and stillen bars set to middle/middle I felt balance was great with just a hint of oversteer (and totally eliminated factory understeer) when pinching a turn. After going powertrix with 12k/11k (keep in mind oem is 7.5k/8.1k) I then felt a touch of undsersteer when pushing it in a turn (but the shocks are awesome and completely kept the car stable in the dip at turn 6 at leguna). So I myself couldn't think I would want no rear bar or even oem but maybe I just haven't gotten fast enough to enter turn super hard or I just like a loose rear.

I think Rusty has a lot of track experience so I would trust him but just thought I would give another opinion.
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So should I just buy an eibach front + spl links and call it a day?

or is there anything to be gained by going for a full set front+rear? are we talking 5-10% difference? I do value the highly stock compliance at the limits on uneven pavement as it's a daily setup.

Thoughts appreciated!!!
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So should I just buy an eibach front + spl links and call it a day?

or is there anything to be gained by going for a full set front+rear? are we talking 5-10% difference? I do value the highly stock compliance at the limits on uneven pavement as it's a daily setup.

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I'm probably not the fastest here (only 2 track days so far) but I personally actually like aftermarket front and rear (I use stillen) and strangely I think I may even soften the front (one softer than middle) after first track day with oem coils/shocks and stillen bars set to middle/middle I felt balance was great with just a hint of oversteer (and totally eliminated factory understeer) when pinching a turn. After going powertrix with 12k/11k (keep in mind oem is 7.5k/8.1k) I then felt a touch of undsersteer when pushing it in a turn (but the shocks are awesome and completely kept the car stable in the dip at turn 6 at leguna). So I myself couldn't think I would want no rear bar or even oem but maybe I just haven't gotten fast enough to enter turn super hard or I just like a loose rear.

I think Rusty has a lot of track experience so I would trust him but just thought I would give another opinion.
The whole idea is to have a balanced car, or close to it. For DD, the Eibach is fine. You'll notice the difference. Everyone who has changed bars. Doesn't matter which bar. Have felled an improvement. If you have big meat meats/sticky tires, driving style. Then I think you would need the Hotchkis.

My SPL linkage squeaks afterwards if I get caught in the rain. Then I have to give it a shot of oil. Then it's good until the next time. Also to keep your new bars from squeaking. Where the bar bushings sit on the bar. Wrap that area with white teflon pipe thread tape. Then smear grease over the area and inside the bushing.
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Front bar only. I have the Hotchkiss but may get an Eibach for lower grip surfaces.
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If I already feel the back slipping, will the sways make it better or worse?

Whats the general consensus for spirited street driving?

Currently using Michelin Ps4s 265/35/19 f, 305/30/19 r
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If I already feel the back slipping, will the sways make it better or worse?

Whats the general consensus for spirited street driving?

Currently using Michelin Ps4s 265/35/19 f, 305/30/19 r
Regardless of what type of driving you're doing the answer is "front bar only". For the street, the Hotchkis might be a bit overkill. The Eibach front bar maybe the way to go.

A front bar should help bring an oversteery car back to neutral.
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Regardless of what type of driving you're doing the answer is "front bar only". For the street, the Hotchkis might be a bit overkill. The Eibach front bar maybe the way to go.

A front bar should help bring an oversteery car back to neutral.
Yeah, you do get a little bit of waddle from the front bar on uneven/bumpy roads with the Hotchkis. I notice it, but I am not taking it off... LOL
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