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Old 08-12-2010, 03:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What size rear Speaker have to get ?
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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most people are just disconnecting the rear. theyre useless.
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There are a few threads about this. They are small like 3.5 I think they were. They are unless for a small sports car like the z use that money towards a netters amp or better components
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There are a few threads about this. They are small like 3.5 I think they were. They are unless for a small sports car like the z use that money towards a netters amp or better components
I do not agree, rear fill has a place with the majority of listeners. I for one do not agree with the idea of removing something that can add depth to a stereo image. I bet most people if they had upgraded the rears also would leave them in play, only a true Audiophile would object to some rear fill and true Audiophiles only listen at home anyway. Anyone else is just trying to be trendy, I say don't take out the rear they have their place.
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To each there own but people have been much happier with better fronts. Even regular people like it as well as myself running no rears in a civic. Look ay it this way a concert all your audio is in front of you not coming from the rear. Those small speakers are going to screw with where you thing the sound is coming from because they are so close to your ears. What are those small speakers gping to do other than limit how high you can go before they clip unless you fade them out. Just my though as a guy into sq.
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To each there own but people have been much happier with better fronts. Even regular people like it as well as myself running no rears in a civic. Look ay it this way a concert all your audio is in front of you not coming from the rear. Those small speakers are going to screw with where you thing the sound is coming from because they are so close to your ears. What are those small speakers gping to do other than limit how high you can go before they clip unless you fade them out. Just my though as a guy into sq.
Maybe you don't understand what rear fill means, they are only faded in at very low levels to add a depth to a sound stage hence the word FILL, any car has challenges creating an accurate flat sound stage when the music is being played in a tin can.

Don't confuse what I am saying the front stage is the biggest part to creating a good sound stage, but when you don't put any rear speakers in what so ever then you have no chance of adding any rear fill if you so want cause you took them out. ODVIOUSLY

Same reason for putting the 2 10" in my system, how can you really crank it if you never put the system in capable of those levels in the first place. You can always turn it down or off if you want, but how are you gonna put them back easily if you want. Ever heard of the saying you can always cut more wood off but it's way harder to put it back?
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Some like just the fronts; others are happy with the rear-fill.

Search on my posts. I have some 'serious' components (IMHo), but ended up having the rears.

Careful on your rear- speaker selection. You need to find low-profile ones.
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Maybe you don't understand what rear fill means, they are only faded in at very low levels to add a depth to a sound stage hence the word FILL, any car has challenges creating an accurate flat sound stage when the music is being played in a tin can.

Don't confuse what I am saying the front stage is the biggest part to creating a good sound stage, but when you don't put any rear speakers in what so ever then you have no chance of adding any rear fill if you so want cause you took them out. ODVIOUSLY

Same reason for putting the 2 10" in my system, how can you really crank it if you never put the system in capable of those levels in the first place. You can always turn it down or off if you want, but how are you gonna put them back easily if you want. Ever heard of the saying you can always cut more wood off but it's way harder to put it back?

As I say whatever makes the customer happy.
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As I say whatever makes the customer happy.
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Having read most of the threads on speaker size and rear speaker (yea vs. nay), I've come to the conclusion that I'm putting them in. I'm not going to locate the thread now, but I've read (on this forum) that a 4" will fit with modifications. Personally, I'm putting Focal 100 CVX 4" Coaxials in back and 165 V30s up front. I plan to do the full install of everything this week and will put up a documentation afterward.

bigaudiofanat is a rockstar when it comes to advice and knowledge and has provided this forum and many folks with excellent direction and advice. I politely disagree with his philosophy of rear speakers, but recognize his talent and expertise and will be using his thoughts in my install.

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I'm in the midst of installing a pair of Infinity Kappa 32.9cf 3 1/2" and they went in with minor (5 minutes) modification to the body panel. The Infinitys have a lip that fits perfectly over the lip in the body panel. I'll know positively tonight whether or not there need to be any other mods, but I'm 90% sure the panels will go back in with no other changes needed.

In reference to the concert listening. When you're at a concert, there is quite a bit of echo and reverberations that don't happen in a car. I personally like having sound all over the place, especially if you have a 5.1 HU.

It's all personal taste I guess.
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Having read most of the threads on speaker size and rear speaker (yea vs. nay), I've come to the conclusion that I'm putting them in. I'm not going to locate the thread now, but I've read (on this forum) that a 4" will fit with modifications. Personally, I'm putting Focal 100 CVX 4" Coaxials in back and 165 V30s up front. I plan to do the full install of everything this week and will put up a documentation afterward.

bigaudiofanat is a rockstar when it comes to advice and knowledge and has provided this forum and many folks with excellent direction and advice. I politely disagree with his philosophy of rear speakers, but recognize his talent and expertise and will be using his thoughts in my install.

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Here's the thread you were looking for.

Got the 4" fabbed up
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@ TreeSemdyZee

Thanks for the link - I'm in the midst of fully damplifying my car. I've looked at the rear speaker options and I'm going to have to fab something up to fit the Focal 100 CVX's in the rear.

I agree with you that sound usually has resonance and bounces off of places when listening. Also, I figure, why ask 2 speakers to do what 4 can do? Why not spread the load? Yes, some folks tell me to put the $ from the rears into the fronts and I'll get better sound - but I'm guessing the Focal 165 V30s are a pretty good place to be in the fronts. Just a thought.

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they should use the rear speakers as noise cancellation speakers..
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I disagree, there is plenty of volume able to be produced from the fronts that rears are not needed. People that are installing them will find out that they are going to be over ran with the rears and have to turn them way down.
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