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Originally Posted by Knockoutpie Attachment 123924 Gotta have ported to slam. Not true at all. You can get PLENTY of slam with a sealed box.

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Old 08-30-2017, 05:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Gotta have ported to slam.
Not true at all. You can get PLENTY of slam with a sealed box.
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Yeah, that's not true at all. Sealed can "slam" just as hard as ported when done correctly with the right drivers and power.
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And speaking of sealed enclosures, my friend decided to start building it today. Just doing a preliminary build with... Gulp... 1/2" plywood!

20 x 30 x 7 has us at 2.23 cf. Once corner bracing, wall bracing, baffle bracing, bracing around the driver opening and driver displacement, we should be in the neighborhood of about 1.95 cf.

He's well into his 70's so he thinks using 1/2" plywood is perfectly fine. I'm just going along with it for now just so we can get the sub in the car before I go on my vacation next weekend and I can get an idea of how the sub is going to sound and perform. Once we're back in town, I'll use it as a base to build the final product from 3/4" MDF.

I'll be going back to his house this Saturday to finish it up.
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And today I called off the build of that box. Just the thought of him attempting to use 1/2" plywood was a major turnoff and I wasn't thrilled at all from the very beginning. So I just told him thanks but no thanks. Of course, I was nice about it. He's a great guy and will do anything for you, and he can design and build magnificent furniture, but subwoofer enclosures, not so much.

BTW, that Type S sub came in today. It's a lot nicer than I thought, and a lot heavier too! I don't think I've ever seen the weight of it posted anywhere, even on Alpine's site or in the owners manual, other than the magnet weight of 106 oz. If I had to guess, I'd say it weighs close to 20 lbs, if not more. Nice and beefy!

I'm going to wait until we're back from our trip to install this thing. I don't want to rush into it like I almost did yesterday. I refuse to cut corners with this system, or with the car in general. So it can just sit here and wait until I finalize some kind of plan for it.
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As the SI mids and tweets continue to break in, I continue to tweak the levels and crossover. In doing so, there's very little EQ going on. I still need to run the "Auto" T/A and EQ on the new drivers.

I gotta say, these speakers and this amp make for a very clean and clear sound. Though I still need a DSP to get the sound just where I want it. And even though there's zero rattles in the doors, I feel I can still do some tuning to fix that dip in the EQ at the doors with some acoustic treatments of some sorts. There's some kind of peak there that needs to be addressed. The less processing I can do without, the better I always say.




Oh, and the sub came in today. It's funny, I always used to think 15's were bigger than this. It's sitting on top of my JL e110 sub, which is a massive 10" driver. The Alpine doesn't look all that much bigger! It is a rather heavy, beefy driver though.





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I had a sub enclosure made out of epoxy resin from some guys here in Austin. I have some pictures here:

Nissan 370Z Forum - dotcomee's Album: Custom sub enclosure/amp install

It sounds really good. It's not completely stock looking but still looks good I think.

Gotta love that big rear end on the Z, plenty of space for an enclosure.
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It sounds really good. It's not completely stock looking but still looks good I think.

Gotta love that big rear end on the Z, plenty of space for an enclosure.
Nice!

Yeah, with the big booty in these cars, there's quite a bit of available air space back there. I still need to figure out something for mine. I no longer have the tools nor the place to build an enclosure myself. That means I have to either have a friend or friend of a friend build it for me, OR find a decent shop that knows how to build quality enclosures to spec, both the driver's specs and MY specs.

The shop I went to to have the amp and speakers installed, they deal with another guy/shop to build custom enclosures for them when needed. Maybe I should talk to them again and see what they can do for me.

I wonder how much that would cost.
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I took some more measurements today. If I were to build an enclosure to fit within the confines of those foam inserts on either side (just where the tire sits), at 19" x 20" x 8.5", that would only give me 1.3 cf of air space, so the foam will have to go. No real point of keeping it all there anyway if I'm not running a spare.

What I think I'll do is have the enclosure as large as possible, extending somewhat into the those rear corners. That will give me the opportunity to mount the sub off to the side towards one of those corners, probably on the passenger side.

It'll definitely be a little bit of a challenge to shoehorn this sub into the car, but I'll get it done one way or another.

As you can see in the pics below, this Type S 15 is a bit larger than the typical 12's installed in these cars... For obvious reasons.





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Nice!

Yeah, with the big booty in these cars, there's quite a bit of available air space back there. I still need to figure out something for mine. I no longer have the tools nor the place to build an enclosure myself. That means I have to either have a friend or friend of a friend build it for me, OR find a decent shop that knows how to build quality enclosures to spec, both the driver's specs and MY specs.

The shop I went to to have the amp and speakers installed, they deal with another guy/shop to build custom enclosures for them when needed. Maybe I should talk to them again and see what they can do for me.

I wonder how much that would cost.
I fabbed fiberglass boxes for my Del Sol and 350z in the parking lots of apartment complexes. =)
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Feel like doing that again sometime?! Hint, hint...
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LOL I forgot you were local.

I hate fiberglass so much I would charge you more than a professional and do a worse job. =) The beauty of it is that it doesn't require much in terms of tools, etc. Just elbow grease.

The next box I fab will be for my own Z.... been hoping to avoid glass but I think it will end up that way anyway. Have an Alpine Type R 8" waiting to go in and looking to do my first ported enclosure.
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LOL I forgot you were local.

I hate fiberglass so much I would charge you more than a professional and do a worse job. =) The beauty of it is that it doesn't require much in terms of tools, etc. Just elbow grease.

The next box I fab will be for my own Z.... been hoping to avoid glass but I think it will end up that way anyway. Have an Alpine Type R 8" waiting to go in and looking to do my first ported enclosure.
Oh snap!

I didn't even notice the fiberglass part of your post. I was rushing on my lunch break and thought you just said "fabbed boxes for"... Didn't even see the fiberglass part. I wouldn't want a fiberglass enclosure anyway. Too much of a PITA.

Nah, for me, I just want to use good ole' MDF.
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And now here I am eating my own words...

Just came across an old friend of mine that used to own a car audio shop here in town back in the 90's. He still does a little bit of car audio stuff on the side when time permits, just for fun.

Anyway, I told him what I was doing with my car and that I plan on installing a 15. He offered to build the enclosure for me. All I have to do is pay for the materials and a little for his time. He recommended doing fiberglass. I've seen his work many times in the past as well as hear the systems that he built. He knows his stuff! Several of his systems have competed quite well in IASCA and USACI.

So as of today, the plan is to go with a heavy duty fiberglass enclosure. Since this isn't his main source of income, we have to work around each other's work schedules, meaning it may take a while, but it will be done right.

Once I get the materials (which I can get at or near cost), we'll meet up, he'll mask off and make a mold of the back of the car in a layer of resin and mat, wait for it to cure enough to remove, then I can go back home and leave him with the mold so that he can work on it on his own time.

I'm pretty excited about this!
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cant wait to see how it turns out.
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Sounds like you have this part covered, but if you end up needing supplies in a pinch there is a local fiberglass supply place. Good prices and selection.

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