Mine's Motorsport VX-Rom vs Osiris vs any other ECU reflash

Sh0velMan · 06-19-2013, 10:56 AM

The thing is, until someone does a back to back comparison with the same tuner on the same dyno, it's going to be difficult to say for 100% sure if any tuning solution is truly superior to any other solution FOR THE END USER.

There will always be differences for the tuner themselves, which one is easier to use for them, easier to license, easier to make incremental changes and track those changes, etc. But for the guy driving the car, it will take proven dyno results one way or the other for there to be a truly "better" product.

So try and wrap your head around that and look at it not as "which tuning software is 'better'" because it's just a means to an end. Asking people that have Uprev on their cars what their experience has been like is going to get you a lot of "It's been great!" and "My car drives lots better and makes more power".

Ask people with ECU Tek the same thing, they're going to give you the same answers.

JARblue · 06-19-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mines 370z

Ok so, you don't have any direct experience or insight on the product either? Just from what you heard or other threads. I'm looking for personal experience or hard data to compare the two. I can't seem to find a solid answer. I'm not going to just follow the leader.

What about my post led you to believe that I don't have any direct experience with EcuTek? If you can't read what is posted, then no one is going to be able to help you. I currently have an EcuTek tune. I'm very pleased with it, but then I have no experience with any other tuning software to compare it with.

Personally, I think you should waste your money on a canned tune that matches your user name

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

On the dyno or on the street. I'd assume there's a good bit of street data logging, since not all of it is just tuning WOT. Other tuners offer the same type of service with Uprev, so you definitely have options there. I'm currently running Uprev, but very little of my experience will be applicable to you unless you're boosted.

Ok cool thanks!

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by saber

FYI::

Mine's VX-ROM

Only person I saw with Mine's ECU was in Thailand, the opinions and thoughts are a little generic: My 370Z Branew n' Mine's ECU

It looks like you are already, but I'd knock Mine's off of your list. It's a bit extreme to have in the US...anything goes wrong, you're SOL out here with no support.

Thanks I read the thread.

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

What about my post led you to believe that I don't have any direct experience with EcuTek? If you can't read what is posted, then no one is going to be able to help you. I currently have an EcuTek tune. I'm very pleased with it, but then I have no experience with any other tuning software to compare it with.

Personally, I think you should waste your money on a canned tune that matches your user name

You guys get offended quick here I see. I posted the question to get an answer. No need to take it personal my friend, it's just a car forum.

370Z JT · 06-19-2013, 11:21 AM

Get the mines Ecu reflash and tell us how it is.

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT

Get the mines Ecu reflash and tell us how it is.

I just might do that and let you know.

JARblue · 06-19-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mines 370z

You guys get offended quick here I see. I posted the question to get an answer. No need to take it personal my friend, it's just a car forum.

lol I didn't take it personally... it's the internet

I simply responded to your post in which you stated I didn't have personal experience with EcuTek. If you had read any of the many EcuTek threads, you will find plenty of people asking for exactly the same thing you are: results and dyno graphs. Like I said, they're slowly trickling in because the software is so new. UpRev has a lot more history, so if you're basing your decision off other people's experiences and dyno charts, that's going to be the software with the most information.

V8Killer · 06-19-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mines 370z

I don't want to switch the maps using my cruise control button...simple, that's my personal preference. That's not the type of product I am looking for. The ECU Tek is running like 1500 plus at the moment and not to many shops know how to tune it. They are a England based company, ok..Mine's has been able to map it without the cruise control map switching. The Mine's VX Rom will work on US 370z's.

Like it was mentioned before you don't lose any functions for the cruise control. It is an option I guess you could say I want a map that is fuel efficient and one for the track. I like the dual mapping as I have one for just n/a and one for when I am running nitrous. It has been so long since I have been home but I am pretty sure you have to hold a button down at the same time with cruise control and you will see 1 flash or 2 flashes that designate which map you are running. So with that said no accidental map switching while driving. Lots of threads on here with actual users on both Uprev and Ecu Tek platforms, I am sure you can find some good information using the search engine.

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer

Like it was mentioned before you don't lose any functions for the cruise control. It is an option I guess you could say I want a map that is fuel efficient and one for the track. I like the dual mapping as I have one for just n/a and one for when I am running nitrous. It has been so long since I have been home but I am pretty sure you have to hold a button down at the same time with cruise control and you will see 1 flash or 2 flashes that designate which map you are running. So with that said no accidental map switching while driving. Lots of threads on here with actual users on both Uprev and Ecu Tek platforms, I am sure you can find some good information using the search engine.

Thanks for the info. Per a previous response I would opt out of switching the maps for the cruise control and run just one map all the time. When you did run the NA what was one of the most significant changes you noticed on your car?

V8Killer · 06-19-2013, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mines 370z

Thanks for the info. Per a previous response I would opt out of switching the maps for the cruise control and run just one map all the time. When you did run the NA what was one of the most significant changes you noticed on your car?

Well I'm not quite sure how to answer this as I don't know specifically what your asking? I was running rich before my tune and the tune was able to get my afr to where it needed to be with the parts I had as well as smoothing out a few dips in the power band. The reason I have two is b/c the timing has to be retarded for when I am spraying which is my track application and occasional spirited driving along with other variables when adding nitrous through the motor. I just didn't want the cruise control factor to be the reason for not going uprev. In reality either software you pick, it will come down to the guy tuning your vehicle. The first time I had it done, it was a bust and I got ripped off. Second time was better but not where it needed to be b/c of lack of experience. Take it to a reputable shop, not just any shop but one that deals with our specific car. When my build is done my car is going to GA home of Z1 which I am excited about. Just remember going all N/a will only get you so far as there is still much to be found in cracking this motor.

Chuck33079 · 06-19-2013, 11:58 AM

Some of the other items that can be tweaked through Uprev (and Ecutek I would assume, but there's no telling which features are available yet) are the throttle maps and fan control. You want these, trust me.

JARblue · 06-19-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Some of the other items that can be tweaked through Uprev (and Ecutek I would assume, but there's no telling which features are available yet) are the throttle maps and fan control. You want these, trust me.

Both of these are currently available in EcuTek. Tweaking the throttle maps was by far the most noticeable result of my tune: much better throttle response. I know fan control is in there, but I'm going to educate myself a little more before I talk to my tuner about adjusting it.

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer

Well I'm not quite sure how to answer this as I don't know specifically what your asking? I was running rich before my tune and the tune was able to get my afr to where it needed to be with the parts I had as well as smoothing out a few dips in the power band. The reason I have two is b/c the timing has to be retarded for when I am spraying which is my track application and occasional spirited driving along with other variables when adding nitrous through the motor. I just didn't want the cruise control factor to be the reason for not going uprev. In reality either software you pick, it will come down to the guy tuning your vehicle. The first time I had it done, it was a bust and I got ripped off. Second time was better but not where it needed to be b/c of lack of experience. Take it to a reputable shop, not just any shop but one that deals with our specific car. When my build is done my car is going to GA home of Z1 which I am excited about. Just remember going all N/a will only get you so far as there is still much to be found in cracking this motor.

Great info, just what I was looking for. I am in GA now and Z1 is the place I will be going to for any work. They have a great rep in the are and Jon there is the bomb. Thanks again for the info.

Mines 370z · 06-19-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Some of the other items that can be tweaked through Uprev (and Ecutek I would assume, but there's no telling which features are available yet) are the throttle maps and fan control. You want these, trust me.

Chuck what's up with the throttle map and fan control? Can you speak a little more on this?

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