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ill stick to shifting between 7300 and 7500

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Old 03-06-2014, 05:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Typo on my part. "Lack" of lead content. The newer environmentally friendly bearings from Nissan haven't done well with higher oil temps. Issues in GTR motors as well.

As long as you guys are ok with shortening life of a motor that should last 200k miles. I'd do all I could to assure temps are kept below 240.

I knew I was going to rebuild my motor so had some fun with raising RPMs to 8000 at a couple events about 20 minutes running with that redline. Pretty clear to me you want to keep revs and oil temps as low as possible on stock internals VQ. I have pics to prove what happens and my motor only had 15k miles mostly street miles. Based on my experience I just wouldn't be cocky about running 250 oil temps and would be looking for more cooling to extend your enjoyment of the stock motor.
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Having been long term air cooled Porsche guy this was only oiling solution I was comfortable with my VQ track car build.

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Hey what can I say! I love showing off other peoples great work! JWT is all over this and really have come up with incredibe setup. Its amazing all the little specially engineered tricks that they have used to make all this come together. One critieria I had early on was to dry sump this motor. And its been interesting learning expereince to see what has to be done. Brian at Valykyrie knows it all now too! He has seen all tricks that need to be done to turn these motors into reliable track power plants. JWT is an invaluable resource in building this motor for us and to push traditional VQ limits as this is high compression stoker that hasnt been seen on track circles yet! Brian and I are now working on how we will keep this beast cool. I spec'd ethonol fuel as one strategy to keep top end temps lower but we are looking at massive oil cooling strategy. Start with very large air to oil cooler but may use suplemental water to oil cooler as well.

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Well you know what they say either you can pay now or really pay later. The drysump is one of those preventative steps that should save rebuild costs in future for a track car. So spend a few thousand on sump or rebuild motor more often. I saw how long the non dry sumped grand am motors were lasting. ...cough.

I also popped for the air oil separator as well. Im a sucker for youtube video marketing.

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Typo on my part. "Lack" of lead content. The newer environmentally friendly bearings from Nissan haven't done well with higher oil temps. Issues in GTR motors as well.

As long as you guys are ok with shortening life of a motor that should last 200k miles. I'd do all I could to assure temps are kept below 240.

I knew I was going to rebuild my motor so had some fun with raising RPMs to 8000 at a couple events about 20 minutes running with that redline. Pretty clear to me you want to keep revs and oil temps as low as possible on stock internals VQ. I have pics to prove what happens and my motor only had 15k miles mostly street miles. Based on my experience I just wouldn't be cocky about running 250 oil temps and would be looking for more cooling to extend your enjoyment of the stock motor.
im installing a prototype radiator next week that im going to be testing out in a couple weekends, if that keeps water temp completely under control, but oil temps are still on the high side, ill revist my oil cooler setup. Possibly a second core is in order
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