Laguna Seca Track Day Brake Issue

dua564 · 07-20-2016, 02:50 PM

Buckeye, when you say too aggressive on the throttle, do you mean when applying power at the apex? I brake in a straight line before the turn, turn in and hit the power at the apex. You're saying I should apply light power here?

Rusty, Yes. I noticed the TCS light came coming out of turns. It was especially noticeable at turn 11 on Laguna Seca which I feel is the hardest on brakes and shifting to second gear (hard to get that combo right).

What do you guys suggest to improve my next track day with regards to TCS, braking and applying power with this car? I'm on the base 2013 model so no LSD

synolimit · 07-20-2016, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dua564

Buckeye, when you say too aggressive on the throttle, do you mean when applying power at the apex? I brake in a straight line before the turn, turn in and hit the power at the apex. You're saying I should apply light power here?

Rusty, Yes. I noticed the TCS light came coming out of turns. It was especially noticeable at turn 11 on Laguna Seca which I feel is the hardest on brakes and shifting to second gear (hard to get that combo right).

What do you guys suggest to improve my next track day with regards to TCS, braking and applying power with this car? I'm on the base 2013 model so no LSD

Yes he's saying you're to aggressive power on at the apex. You're forcing the cars VDC to kick on and that's why your lights flashing and the cars applying the rear brakes to keep you straight. He's saying if you turn the VDC off and drive the same you're gonna spin in the same turns you're cooking your brakes in and killing your pads. Turn it off next time but drive slower unless you know how to drift.

Rusty · 07-20-2016, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Yes he's saying you're to aggressive power on at the apex. You're forcing the cars VDC to kick on and that's why your lights flashing and the cars applying the rear brakes to keep you straight. He's saying if you turn the VDC off and drive the same you're gonna spin in the same turns you're cooking your brakes in and killing your pads. Turn it off next time but drive slower unless you know how to drift.

BuckeyeZ · 07-20-2016, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dua564

Buckeye, when you say too aggressive on the throttle, do you mean when applying power at the apex? I brake in a straight line before the turn, turn in and hit the power at the apex. You're saying I should apply light power here?

I'm on the base 2013 model so no LSD

Yes. Each turn at each track is different so there is no 'rule'. You can start applying light throttle as you start to unwind the wheel, and the more you unwind the harder you can accelerate. I would expect that you would not be flat-on-the-floor until the steering wheel is straight.

I missed the fact that you were in base model. No LSD makes your brake wear situation even worse.

Rusty · 07-20-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeZ

Yes. Each turn at each track is different so there is no 'rule'. You can start applying light throttle as you start to unwind the wheel, and the more you unwind the harder you can accelerate. I would expect that you would not be flat-on-the-floor until the steering wheel is straight.

I missed the fact that you were in base model. No LSD makes your brake wear situation even worse.

The inside tire is spinning.

ban25 · 07-21-2016, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dua564

Buckeye, when you say too aggressive on the throttle, do you mean when applying power at the apex? I brake in a straight line before the turn, turn in and hit the power at the apex. You're saying I should apply light power here?

Rusty, Yes. I noticed the TCS light came coming out of turns. It was especially noticeable at turn 11 on Laguna Seca which I feel is the hardest on brakes and shifting to second gear (hard to get that combo right).

What do you guys suggest to improve my next track day with regards to TCS, braking and applying power with this car? I'm on the base 2013 model so no LSD

11 is a slow turn anyway. What you want to do is line up on the right edge, brake hard, then turn in and slowly unwind after the apex. The goal is to get the car straightened out quickly so you can get on the gas coming onto the straight. Feel free to use that green strip on the right side. I always have my right tires on it coming out of T11. My buddy always has his left tires on it, LOL.

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dua564 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Bay Area Posts: 12 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 12	Buckeye, when you say too aggressive on the throttle, do you mean when applying power at the apex? I brake in a straight line before the turn, turn in and hit the power at the apex. You're saying I should apply light power here? Rusty, Yes. I noticed the TCS light came coming out of turns. It was especially noticeable at turn 11 on Laguna Seca which I feel is the hardest on brakes and shifting to second gear (hard to get that combo right). What do you guys suggest to improve my next track day with regards to TCS, braking and applying power with this car? I'm on the base 2013 model so no LSD