When a Lamborghini meets a GTR

Liam370z · 02-04-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

Put it at least 120mph as the speed-of-impact. Since it's an head-on impact.

Thus, at 120mph, what can get away from it...??

it is very sad indeed! but the truth is that it seems nearly iompossible to have that type of damage from a 60mph crash, and about the 120mph because it was a head on crash.. meaning 60mph+60mph = 120mph its not true if both car are doing 60mph and crash head on the impact stays the same 60mph its like hitting a wall or something, this myth was busted in mythbusters

alcheng · 02-04-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam370z

it is very sad indeed! but the truth is that it seems nearly iompossible to have that type of damage from a 60mph crash, and about the 120mph because it was a head on crash.. meaning 60mph+60mph = 120mph its not true if both car are doing 60mph and crash head on the impact stays the same 60mph its like hitting a wall or something, this myth was busted in mythbusters

yup... post removed

Liam370z · 02-04-2013, 09:35 PM

what was wrong with the post? why was it removed?

nepali · 02-04-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gauge

According to friends of the deceased speed was not the issue. However, I want to see two cars look like that after an impact at the speed limit...

Apparently (according to the friend) It was a supercar caravan. The driver spun out (lost control) trying to cross the median and was hit by the Nissan. The nissan driver was apparently friends with the lambo driver.

But seriously, none of this adds up. That GTR must have been speeding pretty hard or vice versa. Cars do not look like that after impacting at 60mph...

Sucks regardless though. Hate to see people go out like that. Especially car enthusiasts.

Exactly what I was thinking. This cannot be a "low-speed" crash.

Shamu · 02-05-2013, 09:53 PM

Uh yeah debris flew 1000 feet. It was a "slow speed" crash. ...Not

To lose control of AWD car with stability control you have to be moving very fast. Looks like car jumped and planted after intial contact. Probably snapped their backs.

While sad I suspect it was classic example of someone driving far beyond their capability on the street.

DCNISMO · 02-04-2013, 03:04 PM

That will make Jalopnik. Lambo's just don't all the sudden cross a median by their own devices....She was 24.

Japanjay · 02-04-2013, 10:16 PM

That is no head on crash at 60mph. Not even close. I mean come on how often do a GTR and Murci not only pass each other but hit head on.... Also the windshield on the lambo is blown out, maybe from lack of seatbelts being worn. Did the driver and passenger get ejected?

Mitco39 · 02-04-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Japanjay

That is no head on crash at 60mph. Not even close. I mean come on how often do a GTR and Murci not only pass each other but hit head on.... Also the windshield on the lambo is blown out, maybe from lack of seatbelts being worn. Did the driver and passenger get ejected?

If you read the article it clearly states that everyone was wearing seatbelts. It is a very weird crash indeed.

DCNISMO · 02-04-2013, 10:54 PM

The Lambo had the air bags open if you look in the picture. Air bags can only do so much so they must have really been moving. The shell actually looks to be fairly intact, it's not crumpled as the carbon fiber tub seems to have held up. However internal trauma can happen when you stop that hard and that fast that takes you out even if your belted in. May not have any visible external injuries, but bleeds out internally.

nmjaxx9 · 02-04-2013, 11:04 PM

dammmm

That lambo is a crushed can.

Sibze · 02-05-2013, 11:55 AM

Noticed in the article that the lady was driving. Maybe she lost control of it?

If she wasn't an experienced driver of such a powerful car it probably wouldn't take much to loose control...

98intrigue · 02-05-2013, 12:48 PM

Here is a quote from the Lamborghini owner's friend:

Nick Nicou
To everyone commenting on this story. I was very good friends with both of the people who were lost in this accident and have been in touch with witness to the accident. All accusations you have made have bee false. Speed was not the issue, racing was not the issues. The car lost control around a corner due to bad judgement and spun out. It is common thing. It was a supercar caravan. Please think before you speak. The passenger was actually the owner of the car. He was a good person and will be missed. The driver has completed numerous driving and competitive racing courses and was more than capeable of handling the vehicle. Bad timing. That's all it was. Hope this helps anyone concerned.
Yesterday at 11:08am

Nick Nicou
I would also like to add that the owner and driver of the Nissan GTR was also a friend of the victims. Please pray for him.
Yesterday at 11:21am

Zoren 370 · 02-05-2013, 08:30 PM

Bottom line people lost lives over here, no point in fault finding. My sympathy goes to the family and friends of the dearly departed. My prayers for the injured for their speedy recovery. Only God knows what happened over here. Drive Safely everyone.

DCNISMO · 02-05-2013, 08:38 PM

Sorry, but at normal highway speeds the Lambo is not going to suddenly go out of control on perfectly flat and straight pavement..... Unless the driver does something stupid.

sparky · 02-05-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO

Sorry, but at normal highway speeds the Lambo is not going to suddenly go out of control on perfectly flat and straight pavement..... Unless the driver does something stupid.

Read above, he says lost control around a corner.

02-05-2013, 09:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 21	Uh yeah debris flew 1000 feet. It was a "slow speed" crash. ...Not To lose control of AWD car with stability control you have to be moving very fast. Looks like car jumped and planted after intial contact. Probably snapped their backs. While sad I suspect it was classic example of someone driving far beyond their capability on the street. __________________ Grant

02-04-2013, 03:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 180	That will make Jalopnik. Lambo's just don't all the sudden cross a median by their own devices....She was 24. Last edited by DCNISMO; 02-04-2013 at 03:08 PM.

02-05-2013, 11:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 65	Noticed in the article that the lady was driving. Maybe she lost control of it? If she wasn't an experienced driver of such a powerful car it probably wouldn't take much to loose control... __________________ RIP Tony.

02-05-2013, 12:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
98intrigue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Clearwater, FL Age: 40 Posts: 4,855 Drives: 2014 Viper Rep Power: 431	Here is a quote from the Lamborghini owner's friend: Nick Nicou To everyone commenting on this story. I was very good friends with both of the people who were lost in this accident and have been in touch with witness to the accident. All accusations you have made have bee false. Speed was not the issue, racing was not the issues. The car lost control around a corner due to bad judgement and spun out. It is common thing. It was a supercar caravan. Please think before you speak. The passenger was actually the owner of the car. He was a good person and will be missed. The driver has completed numerous driving and competitive racing courses and was more than capeable of handling the vehicle. Bad timing. That's all it was. Hope this helps anyone concerned. Yesterday at 11:08am Nick Nicou I would also like to add that the owner and driver of the Nissan GTR was also a friend of the victims. Please pray for him. Yesterday at 11:21am __________________ Ryan - 2014 Stryker Green Viper Gone - a few Vipers and a couple turbo VQs

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02-04-2013, 09:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Liam370z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Laredo Posts: 28 Drives: Black 370z 2013 AT7 Rep Power: 14	what was wrong with the post? why was it removed?

02-04-2013, 10:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Japanjay Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Puyallup Posts: 856 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z MB M6 Rep Power: 16	That is no head on crash at 60mph. Not even close. I mean come on how often do a GTR and Murci not only pass each other but hit head on.... Also the windshield on the lambo is blown out, maybe from lack of seatbelts being worn. Did the driver and passenger get ejected?

02-04-2013, 10:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 180	The Lambo had the air bags open if you look in the picture. Air bags can only do so much so they must have really been moving. The shell actually looks to be fairly intact, it's not crumpled as the carbon fiber tub seems to have held up. However internal trauma can happen when you stop that hard and that fast that takes you out even if your belted in. May not have any visible external injuries, but bleeds out internally.

02-04-2013, 11:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
nmjaxx9 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Middletown, Ct Posts: 5,853 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 27	dammmm That lambo is a crushed can.

02-05-2013, 08:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913655	Bottom line people lost lives over here, no point in fault finding. My sympathy goes to the family and friends of the dearly departed. My prayers for the injured for their speedy recovery. Only God knows what happened over here. Drive Safely everyone.

02-05-2013, 08:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 180	Sorry, but at normal highway speeds the Lambo is not going to suddenly go out of control on perfectly flat and straight pavement..... Unless the driver does something stupid.

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