2019 Camaro SS commits Hara Kiri...

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-26-2019, 12:11 PM

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Yup. Since I got rid of my Jeep and have been driving Mazdas, life has gotten way better. 100% JDM, preferably Toyota/Mazda/Lexus (models made in Japan, only), for me. (I had a 370Z, and it had a host of QA/QC issues which led to dumping it before the 3/36 went out).

Truth, my 370Z showed me that Nissan is the Chrysler of Japan. Grinding transmission that got worse when it rained (wtf?), brake warping issues, power-steering pump louder than an '03 Terminator's SC. Glitch NAV that would black-screen from time to time. Got rid of it at the 34K mile mark as I recall (and bought an actual Chrysler, which I regretted, rofl!) Have since gone over to Mazda, put about 100K miles on the CX5 platform, and now with my CX5 Turbo find it a pretty solid blend of performance vs. luxury vs. daily usefulness. Definitely gone over to the Toyota/Lexus/Mazda (models made JDM only) camp.

The jeweled Z is the Auto. Sorry manual guys but it's true. At the time it came out. It was the best tranny under a DCT.

ImportConvert · 03-26-2019, 12:15 PM

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The jeweled Z is the Auto. Sorry manual guys but it's true. At the time it came out. It was the best tranny under a DCT.

I hated it. My CX5 has a much better auto than the Z. I drove the Z, and it's super upshift happy. Floor it at say, 40mph, it takes off, lift, floor it again, and it's going to get caught mid-upshift and BOOM! It will slam the hell out of the car DS'ing again. Made the sales rep chic scream when I did it when she kept badgering me to buy it and I told her it had nasty quirks and she demanded to be shown. My CX5s, both the 2015 and the 2019, would not do that. If you floor it and lift, it holds the gear for a few seconds in anticipation t hat you're likely going to hit it again in short order. VERY well sorted, engine brakes for you as well, etc. Maybe Nissan has updated their tuning since I drove a 2012?

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-26-2019, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I hated it. My CX5 has a much better auto than the Z. I drove the Z, and it's super upshift happy. Floor it at say, 40mph, it takes off, lift, floor it again, and it's going to get caught mid-upshift and BOOM! It will slam the hell out of the car DS'ing again. Made the sales rep chic scream when I did it when she kept badgering me to buy it and I told her it had nasty quirks and she demanded to be shown. My CX5s, both the 2015 and the 2019, would not do that. If you floor it and lift, it holds the gear for a few seconds in anticipation t hat you're likely going to hit it again in short order. VERY well sorted, engine brakes for you as well, etc. Maybe Nissan has updated their tuning since I drove a 2012?

I drove it on paddles all the time... So I didn't really get to experience that as a performance flaw. If I had it on auto. I was also in cruise control

When did u come back import? Haven't seen u in ages?

ImportConvert · 03-26-2019, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I drove it on paddles all the time... So I didn't really get to experience that as a performance flaw. If I had it on auto. I was also in cruise control

When did u come back import? Haven't seen u in ages?

Been a while...

I don't understand paddles when a properly tuned transmission gives me the same exact things I'd do for myself with paddles. That's how sorted out the CX5's gearbox is.

ChopsZ · 03-26-2019, 03:42 PM

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The jeweled Z is the Auto. Sorry manual guys but it's true. At the time it came out. It was the best tranny under a DCT.

For strictly drag racing, sure. For everyday driving, nope. I will take the manual over the auto any day of the week. I prefer choosing my own gears and how long I want to stay in them.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2019, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ

For strictly drag racing, sure. For everyday driving, nope. I will take the manual over the auto any day of the week. I prefer choosing my own gears and how long I want to stay in them.

That's exactly how the paddles work? Lol. Geez. And I've done well on track with paddles. Not drag racing. Where do you get these definitions from? On track or street. Manual Z's ain't really efffin with me. I was about half a second quicker than most dudes rowing there own. N that's me hitting paddles. Not leaving it in D. Which tells me not too many dudes even have the kinda skill to stay next to an auto.

ImportConvert · 03-28-2019, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

That's exactly how the paddles work? Lol. Geez. And I've done well on track with paddles. Not drag racing. Where do you get these definitions from? On track or street. Manual Z's ain't really efffin with me. I was about half a second quicker than most dudes rowing there own. N that's me hitting paddles. Not leaving it in D. Which tells me not too many dudes even have the kinda skill to stay next to an auto.

Agreed 100%, but I always found manual more engaging, and since I don't make a living from racing, I'd prefer a manual in a sports car, 1/2 second slower or not.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-30-2019, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Agreed 100%, but I always found manual more engaging, and since I don't make a living from racing, I'd prefer a manual in a sports car, 1/2 second slower or not.

I can respect that to the fullest. Manuals are fun. But I have my reasons for using auto right now... And truth is. I have learned to appreciate shifting autos over the years. They've earned their place in the enthusiast world.

ChopsZ · 04-01-2019, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

That's exactly how the paddles work? Lol. Geez. And I've done well on track with paddles. Not drag racing. Where do you get these definitions from? On track or street. Manual Z's ain't really efffin with me. I was about half a second quicker than most dudes rowing there own. N that's me hitting paddles. Not leaving it in D. Which tells me not too many dudes even have the kinda skill to stay next to an auto.

Just saying... You can have your auto with paddles. That's fine. It's not my cup of tea. And yes, judging from your own personal experience, I would agree, not too many of those dudes have the skill.

I'm not saying I'm the fastest out there, nor am I claiming I'm faster than a "proper" auto, but I am quite capable of shifting pretty darn quick, quicker than most.

Plus, for me, no matter how good an auto is, a manual is simply more engaging and more funner for me.

Anywho, not trying to argue and not saying anyone is right or wrong. Just enjoying my Z and appreciating other fellow Z's.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-02-2019, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ

Just saying... You can have your auto with paddles. That's fine. It's not my cup of tea. And yes, judging from your own personal experience, I would agree, not too many of those dudes have the skill.

I'm not saying I'm the fastest out there, nor am I claiming I'm faster than a "proper" auto, but I am quite capable of shifting pretty darn quick, quicker than most.

Plus, for me, no matter how good an auto is, a manual is simply more engaging and more funner for me.

Anywho, not trying to argue and not saying anyone is right or wrong. Just enjoying my Z and appreciating other fellow Z's.

I can stand behind your comments. I just find fun in both for different reasons. The world is made up of many flavors. At least we can all stand behind the love of the sports car. We'll some of us.... Import convert is now CUV convert.

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