2019 Camaro SS commits Hara Kiri...

sunkist350z · 03-24-2019, 01:00 AM

Priceless story lol I would never buy a GM product.

Spooler · 03-24-2019, 01:17 AM

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Priceless story lol I would never buy a GM product.

Vette's are good to go.

sunkist350z · 03-24-2019, 12:21 PM

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Vette's are good to go.

C7 do look nice almost traded my z for one after a test drive gobs of more power than the z, not a fan of the boxy rear but the new c8 is another story but cant justify paying almost 100k for a GM.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-24-2019, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

C7 do look nice almost traded my z for one after a test drive gobs of more power than the z, not a fan of the boxy rear but the new c8 is another story but cant justify paying almost 100k for a GM.

Did they make pricing concrete? If it ranges between 70 and 140k? I think that'll be fair for the power and performance considering the FM layout..

Lvcky69 · 03-24-2019, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

C7 do look nice almost traded my z for one after a test drive gobs of more power than the z, not a fan of the boxy rear but the new c8 is another story but cant justify paying almost 100k for a GM.

For that amount you could grab a '16 911 turbo like I did. Porsche's are far better than the vettes. Only muscle car I would get is the viper acr

Falconquey · 03-24-2019, 09:06 PM

. All this hard talk about I'd never this or that... FFS let's get bloody real here, we're all driving Nissans gang! No better than GM. To think otherwise is comical. Nissan isn't even the best of the Japanese brands for that matter.
The only thing that's working for Nissan anymore is they happen to produce 2 unicorn sports cars. The rest is mostly Asian trash.

ImportConvert · 03-25-2019, 11:13 AM

Yup. Since I got rid of my Jeep and have been driving Mazdas, life has gotten way better. 100% JDM, preferably Toyota/Mazda/Lexus (models made in Japan, only), for me. (I had a 370Z, and it had a host of QA/QC issues which led to dumping it before the 3/36 went out).

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. All this hard talk about I'd never this or that... FFS let's get bloody real here, we're all driving Nissans gang! No better than GM. To think otherwise is comical. Nissan isn't even the best of the Japanese brands for that matter.
The only thing that's working for Nissan anymore is they happen to produce 2 unicorn sports cars. The rest is mostly Asian trash.

Truth, my 370Z showed me that Nissan is the Chrysler of Japan. Grinding transmission that got worse when it rained (wtf?), brake warping issues, power-steering pump louder than an '03 Terminator's SC. Glitch NAV that would black-screen from time to time. Got rid of it at the 34K mile mark as I recall (and bought an actual Chrysler, which I regretted, rofl!) Have since gone over to Mazda, put about 100K miles on the CX5 platform, and now with my CX5 Turbo find it a pretty solid blend of performance vs. luxury vs. daily usefulness. Definitely gone over to the Toyota/Lexus/Mazda (models made JDM only) camp.

ChopsZ · 03-25-2019, 12:49 PM

I don't know about Nissan being the Chrysler of Japan. That's a bit harsh.

The only "real" issue I have with my Z is that the damn seatbelts gett wet when it rains hard. That, the crappy clutch still sucks even with the RJM v.3 pedal installed, and the fact that the car comes base with a stupid open diff.

Other than that, I'm quite happy with my Z, though I'm still fighting with those clunking BC coilovers in the rear and now the RJM pedal squeaks all the time. Annoying as hell, but no fault of the car or brand itself.

sunkist350z · 03-25-2019, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Yup. Since I got rid of my Jeep and have been driving Mazdas, life has gotten way better. 100% JDM, preferably Toyota/Mazda/Lexus (models made in Japan, only), for me. (I had a 370Z, and it had a host of QA/QC issues which led to dumping it before the 3/36 went out).

Truth, my 370Z showed me that Nissan is the Chrysler of Japan. Grinding transmission that got worse when it rained (wtf?), brake warping issues, power-steering pump louder than an '03 Terminator's SC. Glitch NAV that would black-screen from time to time. Got rid of it at the 34K mile mark as I recall (and bought an actual Chrysler, which I regretted, rofl!) Have since gone over to Mazda, put about 100K miles on the CX5 platform, and now with my CX5 Turbo find it a pretty solid blend of performance vs. luxury vs. daily usefulness. Definitely gone over to the Toyota/Lexus/Mazda (models made JDM only) camp.

I had an s2000 with tranny problems, was sent to the dealer twice for the 2nd gear grind. One of the worst sports cars I have ever owned. The Z on the other hand has been a charm for the past 6 years, same goes for the 350zDE I had for couple of years and 350zHR for four years. As far as calling it the "Chrysler" of Japan is just plain wrong.

ImportConvert · 03-26-2019, 12:15 AM

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I had an s2000 with tranny problems, was sent to the dealer twice for the 2nd gear grind. One of the worst sports cars I have ever owned. The Z on the other hand has been a charm for the past 6 years, same goes for the 350zDE I had for couple of years and 350zHR for four years. As far as calling it the "Chrysler" of Japan is just plain wrong.

Samples of one. Somewhere out there is a Jeep owner with 200K miles and nothing gone wrong. I'm just saying people dog on Nissan, and both my Nissan and Infiniti products had issues, so I moved on. My Mazda products have been much more reliable so far, and I've put more miles on 'em.

Zingston · 03-26-2019, 04:45 AM

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Samples of one. Somewhere out there is a Jeep owner with 200K miles and nothing gone wrong. I'm just saying people dog on Nissan, and both my Nissan and Infiniti products had issues, so I moved on. My Mazda products have been much more reliable so far, and I've put more miles on 'em.

Yep. I'm that Jeep owner, however, only 130k so far. The 06 hemi 5.7 has been awesome. It just keeps on truckin!

ImportConvert · 03-26-2019, 06:37 AM

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Yep. I'm that Jeep owner, however, only 130k so far. The 06 hemi 5.7 has been awesome. It just keeps on truckin!

I wanted to like my 2010 JGC Hemi/qd2, but...

N23
Leaking transmission (2x)
Rotted UCA bushings
Broken sunroof guides
Water pump

And other wonderful things, all before 100k miles. I ditched it.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-26-2019, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Yup. Since I got rid of my Jeep and have been driving Mazdas, life has gotten way better. 100% JDM, preferably Toyota/Mazda/Lexus (models made in Japan, only), for me. (I had a 370Z, and it had a host of QA/QC issues which led to dumping it before the 3/36 went out).

Truth, my 370Z showed me that Nissan is the Chrysler of Japan. Grinding transmission that got worse when it rained (wtf?), brake warping issues, power-steering pump louder than an '03 Terminator's SC. Glitch NAV that would black-screen from time to time. Got rid of it at the 34K mile mark as I recall (and bought an actual Chrysler, which I regretted, rofl!) Have since gone over to Mazda, put about 100K miles on the CX5 platform, and now with my CX5 Turbo find it a pretty solid blend of performance vs. luxury vs. daily usefulness. Definitely gone over to the Toyota/Lexus/Mazda (models made JDM only) camp.

The jeweled Z is the Auto. Sorry manual guys but it's true. At the time it came out. It was the best tranny under a DCT.

ImportConvert · 03-26-2019, 12:15 PM

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The jeweled Z is the Auto. Sorry manual guys but it's true. At the time it came out. It was the best tranny under a DCT.

I hated it. My CX5 has a much better auto than the Z. I drove the Z, and it's super upshift happy. Floor it at say, 40mph, it takes off, lift, floor it again, and it's going to get caught mid-upshift and BOOM! It will slam the hell out of the car DS'ing again. Made the sales rep chic scream when I did it when she kept badgering me to buy it and I told her it had nasty quirks and she demanded to be shown. My CX5s, both the 2015 and the 2019, would not do that. If you floor it and lift, it holds the gear for a few seconds in anticipation t hat you're likely going to hit it again in short order. VERY well sorted, engine brakes for you as well, etc. Maybe Nissan has updated their tuning since I drove a 2012?

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-26-2019, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I hated it. My CX5 has a much better auto than the Z. I drove the Z, and it's super upshift happy. Floor it at say, 40mph, it takes off, lift, floor it again, and it's going to get caught mid-upshift and BOOM! It will slam the hell out of the car DS'ing again. Made the sales rep chic scream when I did it when she kept badgering me to buy it and I told her it had nasty quirks and she demanded to be shown. My CX5s, both the 2015 and the 2019, would not do that. If you floor it and lift, it holds the gear for a few seconds in anticipation t hat you're likely going to hit it again in short order. VERY well sorted, engine brakes for you as well, etc. Maybe Nissan has updated their tuning since I drove a 2012?

I drove it on paddles all the time... So I didn't really get to experience that as a performance flaw. If I had it on auto. I was also in cruise control

When did u come back import? Haven't seen u in ages?

03-24-2019, 01:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
sunkist350z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Z-land Posts: 1,009 Drives: 2012 370z sport 6-sp Rep Power: 55343	Priceless story lol I would never buy a GM product. ChopsZ likes this.

03-24-2019, 09:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
Falconquey Track Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: PacNW Posts: 563 Drives: Bitchin' 15 Z Rep Power: 2246926	. All this hard talk about I'd never this or that... FFS let's get bloody real here, we're all driving Nissans gang! No better than GM. To think otherwise is comical. Nissan isn't even the best of the Japanese brands for that matter. The only thing that's working for Nissan anymore is they happen to produce 2 unicorn sports cars. The rest is mostly Asian trash. Rusty, wideglideleon and Zingston like this.

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ChopsZ Track Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central Florida Age: 50 Posts: 965 Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT Rep Power: 2303	I don't know about Nissan being the Chrysler of Japan. That's a bit harsh. The only "real" issue I have with my Z is that the damn seatbelts gett wet when it rains hard. That, the crappy clutch still sucks even with the RJM v.3 pedal installed, and the fact that the car comes base with a stupid open diff. Other than that, I'm quite happy with my Z, though I'm still fighting with those clunking BC coilovers in the rear and now the RJM pedal squeaks all the time. Annoying as hell, but no fault of the car or brand itself. __________________ She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz \| Akebono \| BC Racing \| EcuTek \| HKS \| MaxBore \| Motordyne \| Nismo \| RJM \| SPL \| StopTech \| Z1 AUDIO: Arc Audio \| Bazooka \| Helix \| Pioneer \| Stereo Integrity

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