2020 Supra... first thoughts

BlackZeda · 01-24-2019, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

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The Supra engine sounds promising. There's been a lot of thought into the potentiality of enthusiasts tuning the car. Since the car is already forced induction it may be cheap to mod it seems. Unlike the Q60 vr30dett. Which has so many proprietary technologies. It might as well be an NA mod in cost. These things matter.
Finally... Sounds like it will have a nice sounding exhaust. Something Nissan couldn't even do with a N/A engine and probably the biggest disappointment on the Z.

I'm hoping they make a special edition with the 385hp from the Z4 soon. My only gripe would be the lack of BMW's amazing dual clutch. If they were gonna skimp out on the manual? They could've made a good automatic...

By the way .. My comparisons to the Z aren't Z hate. But I'm nearly seeing the advantages of a newer platform in the Supra
Lastly. Toyota pricing the SUPRA where it's at keeps the Z relevant. The top line Z costs 47k but can be had for about 43k. . a base supra being 50k means toyota wasn't out to crush the Z. So it's up to Nissan to decide how they wanna play it next gen. Compete with the Spra at the price point. Or be the car about 7k cheaper? Mazda Rx9... Where are you?

Performance wise, the DCT is the way to go, but if one wanted to daily drive a Supra, don't you see the ZF transmission as a better choice? Probably the most impressive aspect of the M240i xDrive was the smoothness in which it accelerated. I was actually shocked how much I liked it.

DLSTR · 01-24-2019, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

Performance wise, the DCT is the way to go, but if one wanted to daily drive a Supra, don't you see the ZF transmission as a better choice? Probably the most impressive aspect of the M240i xDrive was the smoothness in which it accelerated. I was actually shocked how much I liked it.

ZF8 is the best auto gearbox on the planet. It can handle more torque than the DCT in my M2. BMW races the gearbox. Im sure Toyota has tuned the motor/gearbox to a nice synch.

For all the talk about the Supra and what use it is, I would bet it will drive nicely and surprise many.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-24-2019, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

Performance wise, the DCT is the way to go, but if one wanted to daily drive a Supra, don't you see the ZF transmission as a better choice? Probably the most impressive aspect of the M240i xDrive was the smoothness in which it accelerated. I was actually shocked how much I liked it.

I think a DCT is the purer choice... Isn't the Supra a sports car? It's a shame people want to soften up the feel of a sports car to daily drive it. Sports cars are meant to be driven for fun. Not for groceries... I think this is why companies make crossovers. Cuz people can't appreciate the mechanical feel of the DCT or manual transmission. Every one wants the sports car but want to take all the visceral nature out of these cars. I guess electric cars will succeed because people want the muted pussification of the driving experience. I guess im old but i personally think DCT and manual are the only ways to go. Clunk and all.

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