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Old 01-23-2019, 08:19 PM   #106 (permalink)
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People are going to **** all over Nissan no matter what they do. The internet just likes to be angry at things.
this literally made me LOL. And yeah, totally agree with your statement. We live in a society where instead of appreciating what one has, one looks for fault in it....OR they can't see past what they own and acknowledge that maybe there might be something better.

I would be a hypocrite if I said I don't do it. IKNOW I do it - hell, I even have a Golf R thread started and even went as far as to see if I could get a great deal on one - when I have a Nismo that I do enjoy driving and puts a smile on my face - STUPID I KNOW! haha; but regardless, this made me laugh and is a very true statement.
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The Supra engine sounds promising. There's been a lot of thought into the potentiality of enthusiasts tuning the car. Since the car is already forced induction it may be cheap to mod it seems. Unlike the Q60 vr30dett. Which has so many proprietary technologies. It might as well be an NA mod in cost. These things matter.
Finally... Sounds like it will have a nice sounding exhaust. Something Nissan couldn't even do with a N/A engine and probably the biggest disappointment on the Z.

I'm hoping they make a special edition with the 385hp from the Z4 soon. My only gripe would be the lack of BMW's amazing dual clutch. If they were gonna skimp out on the manual? They could've made a good automatic...

By the way .. My comparisons to the Z aren't Z hate. But I'm nearly seeing the advantages of a newer platform in the Supra
Lastly. Toyota pricing the SUPRA where it's at keeps the Z relevant. The top line Z costs 47k but can be had for about 43k. . a base supra being 50k means toyota wasn't out to crush the Z. So it's up to Nissan to decide how they wanna play it next gen. Compete with the Spra at the price point. Or be the car about 7k cheaper? Mazda Rx9... Where are you?
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The Supra engine sounds promising. There's been a lot of thought into the potentiality of enthusiasts tuning the car. Since the car is already forced induction it may be cheap to mod it seems. Unlike the Q60 vr30dett. Which has so many proprietary technologies. It might as well be an NA mod in cost. These things matter.
Finally... Sounds like it will have a nice sounding exhaust. Something Nissan couldn't even do with a N/A engine and probably the biggest disappointment on the Z.

I'm hoping they make a special edition with the 385hp from the Z4 soon. My only gripe would be the lack of BMW's amazing dual clutch. If they were gonna skimp out on the manual? They could've made a good automatic...

By the way .. My comparisons to the Z aren't Z hate. But I'm nearly seeing the advantages of a newer platform in the Supra
Lastly. Toyota pricing the SUPRA where it's at keeps the Z relevant. The top line Z costs 47k but can be had for about 43k. . a base supra being 50k means toyota wasn't out to crush the Z. So it's up to Nissan to decide how they wanna play it next gen. Compete with the Spra at the price point. Or be the car about 7k cheaper? Mazda Rx9... Where are you?
Performance wise, the DCT is the way to go, but if one wanted to daily drive a Supra, don't you see the ZF transmission as a better choice? Probably the most impressive aspect of the M240i xDrive was the smoothness in which it accelerated. I was actually shocked how much I liked it.
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Performance wise, the DCT is the way to go, but if one wanted to daily drive a Supra, don't you see the ZF transmission as a better choice? Probably the most impressive aspect of the M240i xDrive was the smoothness in which it accelerated. I was actually shocked how much I liked it.
ZF8 is the best auto gearbox on the planet. It can handle more torque than the DCT in my M2. BMW races the gearbox. Im sure Toyota has tuned the motor/gearbox to a nice synch.

For all the talk about the Supra and what use it is, I would bet it will drive nicely and surprise many.
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Just say "NO" to that BMW thingy....
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Am I the only one who does not want my sports car to be smooth and "drive nicely"?

Not trying to pick a fight with anyone here, but that kind of metric simply bumps the car down to "sporty grocery getter" for me. Nothing wrong with that, but then don't promote it as anything other than a mid life crisis for balding dudes with hemorrhoids.
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I'm fine with smooth and nice driving, and prefer it in a street car. I'm not on a race track and the idea that cars have to be violent and loud to be fast was outdated a decade ago. It's why I bought the Z. It's a comfortable sports car that I do get groceries in.

My race car? Hell yeah I want every gear change to make me see God.
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Am I the only one who does not want my sports car to be smooth and "drive nicely"?

Not trying to pick a fight with anyone here, but that kind of metric simply bumps the car down to "sporty grocery getter" for me. Nothing wrong with that, but then don't promote it as anything other than a mid life crisis for balding dudes with hemorrhoids.
The Supra won’t have a manual option apparently.
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Performance wise, the DCT is the way to go, but if one wanted to daily drive a Supra, don't you see the ZF transmission as a better choice? Probably the most impressive aspect of the M240i xDrive was the smoothness in which it accelerated. I was actually shocked how much I liked it.
I think a DCT is the purer choice... Isn't the Supra a sports car? It's a shame people want to soften up the feel of a sports car to daily drive it. Sports cars are meant to be driven for fun. Not for groceries... I think this is why companies make crossovers. Cuz people can't appreciate the mechanical feel of the DCT or manual transmission. Every one wants the sports car but want to take all the visceral nature out of these cars. I guess electric cars will succeed because people want the muted pussification of the driving experience. I guess im old but i personally think DCT and manual are the only ways to go. Clunk and all.
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Am I the only one who does not want my sports car to be smooth and "drive nicely"?

Not trying to pick a fight with anyone here, but that kind of metric simply bumps the car down to "sporty grocery getter" for me. Nothing wrong with that, but then don't promote it as anything other than a mid life crisis for balding dudes with hemorrhoids.
I read this after I posted.... You're not alone bruh!!!!
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Am I the only one who does not want my sports car to be smooth and "drive nicely"?

Not trying to pick a fight with anyone here, but that kind of metric simply bumps the car down to "sporty grocery getter" for me. Nothing wrong with that, but then don't promote it as anything other than a mid life crisis for balding dudes with hemorrhoids.
Driving nicely as a sportscar. For me that means doing the basics it should do and well. I could say aggressive and mean the same thing. I simply chose a different word in a war of symantics lol
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The Supra won’t have a manual option apparently.
If true that is not an issue anymore given how good DCT/Auto's are now. With DCT in my M2 for 2 years now I would never go back to a manual unless low powered classic.

The incessant whining over manual 'purity' is numbing. Putting power down is done better and efficiently, so as to actually get use of most of the power better with DCT/Auto. If fast is for you a manual is not with higher power levels.

The myth of the better driving experience is just a personal whim not a fact. The physics say otherwise. Im good with that. I chose the M2 with an open mind to DCT. Im glad I had the option to do so.
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194hp a nd 255hp Supra won't come to USA. Too bad the 255 isn't coming.

https://www.motor1.com/news/301249/t...r-cylinder-us/
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Am I the only one who does not want my sports car to be smooth and "drive nicely"?

Not trying to pick a fight with anyone here, but that kind of metric simply bumps the car down to "sporty grocery getter" for me. Nothing wrong with that, but then don't promote it as anything other than a mid life crisis for balding dudes with hemorrhoids.
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I read this after I posted.... You're not alone bruh!!!!
I agree with both of you. I know the masses want a daily driver that is comfortable, quiet and smooth all packed in to a "sports car". To me, those attributes and title are a contradiction in terms.
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