C8 mid-engine corvette. GM loves their people.

FPenvy · 04-12-2019, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

I have serious concerns about that last part there. While I don't think it'll be true super car money, my bet is on pricing above past corvette pricing. For some reason, as soon as the engine goes behind the drive the price goes up a considerable amount.

i mentioned it before on here that it will most likely be 60-65k for base model then add on to go up to Z51 and Z06.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-13-2019, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

I have serious concerns about that last part there. While I don't think it'll be true super car money, my bet is on pricing above past corvette pricing. For some reason, as soon as the engine goes behind the drive the price goes up a considerable amount.

Serious concerns? That sounds so stressful. Lol. The corvette will always be the Affordable Ferrari. That's what it is. Right now going FMR is taking it out of competing with California's and pushing it with Italia's. It's base pricing should b's around 70k for a base model. Now if your dreams are owning a ZR1? Well that will probably be about 30k more than the one now. But you're probably just looking at a $10k to 15k bump. Which is fair considering the layout and that it will probably crush a Cayman to shreds? Possibly?

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

i mentioned it before on here that it will most likely be 60-65k for base model then add on to go up to Z51 and Z06.

Yup... Im hearing 70k. But 60 to 70k is probably the safest bet as an entry.
For the power the LT1's are putting out now... I think that's more than fair with a 500hp LT2. And you'll have the next gen Camaro if the FR layout is still your cup of tea? I'm sure this will be like a Ferrari Italia for cayman prices. That's insane.

ZCanadian · 04-13-2019, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Serious concerns? That sounds so stressful. Lol. The corvette will always be the Affordable Ferrari. That's what it is. Right now going FMR is taking it out of competing with California's and pushing it with Italia's. It's base pricing should b's around 70k for a base model. Now if your dreams are owning a ZR1? Well that will probably be about 30k more than the one now. But you're probably just looking at a $10k to 15k bump. Which is fair considering the layout and that it will probably crush a Cayman to shreds? Possibly?

Yup... Im hearing 70k. But 60 to 70k is probably the safest bet as an entry.
For the power the LT1's are putting out now... I think that's more than fair with a 500hp LT2. And you'll have the next gen Camaro if the FR layout is still your cup of tea? I'm sure this will be like a Ferrari Italia for cayman prices. That's insane.

I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-14-2019, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

Well. Since the C4 came out. It was designed to be a bargain version of a Ferrari Daytona. That's why when that car came out. They made Ferrari conversion kits which were made popular in the Miami vice television show.
Now aesthetically... We know there's no true comparison from an average built production car to a handbuilt italian machine based on the quality and workmanship. But Chevy has done a few things that are fair enough to call it a poor man's Ferrari.

1. Corvettes have similar ride height
2. Corvettes near 200mph top speeds.
3. Corvettes get up to 1.2 lateral g's
4. Corvettes rival in width and weight.
5. Corvettes have run on the same race tracks as Ferrari's.

So I don't think it's as ridiculous as you say. Tell me another car riding around with a 200mph top speed with 1.2g and 650hp for $80,000? But I bet you can point me to a Ferrari lamb or McLaren.

As far as comparing cuz I've never driven one? Well I spent $1600 to drive 4 supercars. Ferrari being one of them. Nothing sounds or shifts like a Ferrari. A Ferrari is one of a kind. But a corvette can give you some of the experiences of owning a supercar. Despite its production idiosyncrocies and lower quality. Lastly. Car mags used to always do the comparo between the 2 cars in the 80s and 90s.

ImportConvert · 04-14-2019, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

Fall apart at 50k miles? Only someone who hasn't owned a vette since the early 90s would allege that.

Baronsmokes · 04-14-2019, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

The Corvette can absolutely compete with the Ferrari.
I had a Ferrari F30 that I had for a year.I always wanted one.
Great looking car. Beautiful interior finish.Great handling.Good performance and that Italian exhaust note.
Maintenance costs for car was staggering.I was able to do some things like oil changes.Ferrari does not share info.A lot of car is set up to be dealer serviced only.
This car had 17,000 miles when I bought it.It had just had the clutches replaced and oil changed at a cost of $12,000.Lets not even talk about the 30,000 mile service these cars get.
Dealers are arrogant and hard to work with.I sold car to guy who was buying his first also.Good luck to him.

The Corvette Zr1 costs less than half of the Ferrari.Costs so much less to maintain.Corvette can go toe to toe with performance and handling of newer Ferrari..Corvette does not have as nice of an interior as Ferrari.
You are saving so much money with the Vette you can put a custom interior in car.
Im not a big Corvette guy but hands down Corvette competes with many Supercars at a price that is more attainable.
Glad to finaly see the Mid engine Vette that I thought I would see in the 70's.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-25-2019, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

i mentioned it before on here that it will most likely be 60-65k for base model then add on to go up to Z51 and Z06.

FP said it...

FL 4Motion · 07-25-2019, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

495 horsepower
470 lbs tq.
8 speed dual clutch transmission.
0-60 in under 3 seconds
MRC 4.0
Front lift 2.0" with 1000 location memory
Under $60,000

The GT-R is now rendered... obsolete.

Bottom line, gm just dropped an Everyman attainable mclaren supercar competitor in our laps.

ZCanadian · 07-25-2019, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Bottom line, gm just dropped an Everyman attainable mclaren supercar competitor in our laps.

AND, as long as it doesn't become a joke on account of quality or reliability, an everyday supercar that you can live with. Afford to get service done on. And, therefore, not care about putting miles on. It's going to depreciate like a stone, but who cares at that price. You won't have to sell your first born in order to afford to get the oil changed using parts and tools that only select dealers can obtain. And you will not have to drive halfway across the country to find somewhere to have that done.

There are exactly 3 McLaren dealerships in all of Canada. You DON'T want to get into a fight with the closest one! ;-)

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-25-2019, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

AND, as long as it doesn't become a joke on account of quality or reliability, an everyday supercar that you can live with. Afford to get service done on. And, therefore, not care about putting miles on. It's going to depreciate like a stone, but who cares at that price. You won't have to sell your first born in order to afford to get the oil changed using parts and tools that only select dealers can obtain. And you will not have to drive halfway across the country to find somewhere to have that done.

There are exactly 3 McLaren dealerships in all of Canada. You DON'T want to get into a fight with the closest one! ;-)

Since when has corvette not held its value rather decently. 2012 grand sports sell in the mid to high $30's?

ZCanadian · 07-25-2019, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Since when has corvette not held its value rather decently. 2012 grand sports sell in the mid to high $30's?

Just looked at Auto Trader - looks like about 1/2 price after 2-3 years up here, but whatever.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-25-2019, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Just looked at Auto Trader - looks like about 1/2 price after 2-3 years up here, but whatever.

https://www.kbb.com/cars-for-sale/52...lts=14&index=3

https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/56195966

These are some low price examples here. Anything cheaper will have higher mileage.

Canada...

https://www.autotrader.ca/cars/chevrolet/corvette/2012/

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