Who loves/hates their Z?

vtec to vvel · 06-19-2015, 04:44 PM

Lately, I'm seeing a bunch of threads where people are starting to get annoyed/upset with their Z's and, ultimately, with Nissan. I, for one, don't have any complaints about my Z and like everything about it. This being my second Nissan (traded my 07 Z for my 09 Z) and coming from owning 4 Honda vehicles, I thought Nissan did a good job overall, with a few minor omissions:

1. I wish the stock exhaust note on the 370Z was as deep/pronounced as the 350Z.
2. I wish the rear quarter panel window was a big bigger/functional as the 350Z.
3. I wish there was a rear windshield wiper like on the 350Z.
4. I wish there was a trunk release button on the key fob like on the 350Z.

Do I think Nissan could have done a better job? Yes. Do I think there are missing elements that would make the 370Z a bit better? Yes. There's always room for improvement, but nevertheless, IMO, Nissan did a good job.

What I don't understand is why people b*tch and gripe about their cars? If you don't like it, trade it. I didn't go with another Honda vehicle because I wanted to know what torque felt like, so I went with Nissan. The car companies are there to make money - they won't give two sh*ts about your complaints/opinions/threats to buy from another car manufacturer/etc.

cooltoy · 06-19-2015, 05:10 PM

Love.

1. Get an FI exhaust.
2. Adjust your mirrors properly
3. Get a JDM or European model.
4. Can't help you there.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-19-2015, 05:41 PM

I love my Z. Great car. I have not had an issue.

But if this thread was made because I wrote about the Z rumor mill?

Then as stated. I hate the fact the next generation Z may be a downgrade as I was looking to buy another one.
And I hate the fact the rumor mill doesn't promote any excitement or enthusiasm for the next generation car. Instead it makes Nissan as a company look washy washy. Especially with the current lineup of humdrum CVT vehicles

Zbrah · 06-19-2015, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

Lately, I'm seeing a bunch of threads where people are starting to get annoyed/upset with their Z's and, ultimately, with Nissan. I, for one, don't have any complaints about my Z and like everything about it. This being my second Nissan (traded my 07 Z for my 09 Z) and coming from owning 4 Honda vehicles, I thought Nissan did a good job overall, with a few minor omissions:

1. I wish the stock exhaust note on the 370Z was as deep/pronounced as the 350Z.
2. I wish the rear quarter panel window was a big bigger/functional as the 350Z.
3. I wish there was a rear windshield wiper like on the 350Z.
4. I wish there was a trunk release button on the key fob like on the 350Z.

Do I think Nissan could have done a better job? Yes. Do I think there are missing elements that would make the 370Z a bit better? Yes. There's always room for improvement, but nevertheless, IMO, Nissan did a good job.

What I don't understand is why people b*tch and gripe about their cars? If you don't like it, trade it. I didn't go with another Honda vehicle because I wanted to know what torque felt like, so I went with Nissan. The car companies are there to make money - they won't give two sh*ts about your complaints/opinions/threats to buy from another car manufacturer/etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I love my Z. Great car. I have not had an issue.

But if this thread was made because I wrote about the Z rumor mill?

Then as stated. I hate the fact the next generation Z may be a downgrade as I was looking to buy another one.
And I hate the fact the rumor mill doesn't promote any excitement or enthusiasm for the next generation car. Instead it makes Nissan as a company look washy washy. Especially with the current lineup of humdrum CVT vehicles

LOVE my Z...Nissan on the other hand

vtec to vvel · 06-19-2015, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy

Love.
2. Adjust your mirrors properly
3. Get a JDM or European model.
.

2. they are, but blind spots and thats where the rear panel window comes into play.
3. the usdm 350Z came with rear wiper.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I love my Z. Great car. I have not had an issue.

But if this thread was made because I wrote about the Z rumor mill?

Then as stated. I hate the fact the next generation Z may be a downgrade as I was looking to buy another one.
And I hate the fact the rumor mill doesn't promote any excitement or enthusiasm for the next generation car. Instead it makes Nissan as a company look washy washy. Especially with the current lineup of humdrum CVT vehicles

no bro, this thread wasnt started bc of your comment. its just that ive been seeing quite a few threads/posts related to ppl literally griping about how the Z sucks or doesnt come with enough power or whatever issue they have.

guilty conscience? lol jk

Cell · 06-19-2015, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

Lately, I'm seeing a bunch of threads where people are starting to get annoyed/upset with their Z's and, ultimately, with Nissan. I, for one, don't have any complaints about my Z and like everything about it. This being my second Nissan (traded my 07 Z for my 09 Z) and coming from owning 4 Honda vehicles, I thought Nissan did a good job overall, with a few minor omissions:

1. I wish the stock exhaust note on the 370Z was as deep/pronounced as the 350Z.
2. I wish the rear quarter panel window was a big bigger/functional as the 350Z.
3. I wish there was a rear windshield wiper like on the 350Z.
4. I wish there was a trunk release button on the key fob like on the 350Z.

Do I think Nissan could have done a better job? Yes. Do I think there are missing elements that would make the 370Z a bit better? Yes. There's always room for improvement, but nevertheless, IMO, Nissan did a good job.

What I don't understand is why people b*tch and gripe about their cars? If you don't like it, trade it. I didn't go with another Honda vehicle because I wanted to know what torque felt like, so I went with Nissan. The car companies are there to make money - they won't give two sh*ts about your complaints/opinions/threats to buy from another car manufacturer/etc.

Every car out there has it's own list of problems. Every company could of done a better job at making their cars better. Only thing is when people start to cry about minor problems, it is about that time for a new car for them. Then they can drive that around for a while till they start complaining about the minor problems.

Birdfan67 · 06-19-2015, 06:18 PM

Being in the auto industry as I've been for years..BMW,Mercedes,Honda,Acura...there is NO perfect car. Even the 100K BMW 7 series which is a nice car...will garner complaints. There is going to be something to complain about or make a wish list. Manufactures make all efforts to listen to the consumer, tough to please millions and millions of people for 1 particular model.
Taking the Z for what it is...conforming to affordability, dependability it's hard to beat.. sure you can buy Camaro's, Mustangs and such...but look how early and often the body style changes..and rebates they put on them the week they come out.
Sometimes being on the road is a pain in the ***...I always have trucks creeping on my rear end...i look in my rear view mirror and all I see is grill...it pisses me off to no end.
and parking is always challenging... I park wwwwaaaaay out in the sticks at the mall...and some goon will park next to my Z in a piece of ****..heaven help if I see a ding !
Any way chin up...The Z is one of the highest rated sports cars you can buy...overall dependability is second to none.

And it's sexy !!

kenchan · 06-19-2015, 06:48 PM

This thread reminded me of washing machine sound..

kenchan · 06-19-2015, 06:49 PM

Washa washa washa washa!

MagmaRed370z · 06-19-2015, 07:43 PM

Love the Z. Heritage.

RomerZ · 06-19-2015, 07:49 PM

I love my Z and will probably get a second 370Z in the near future just because I love it so much. 2016 Subaru BRZ STi is pretty nice but nothing compares to a Z to me.

cooltoy · 06-19-2015, 08:08 PM

I only wish the stereo controls were on the right side of the steering wheel. Is there a DIY for that?

kuruzero · 06-19-2015, 08:10 PM

I love my Z too but honestly if there's anywhere I'd expect heavy praise and heavy criticisms it'd be a car forum dedicated to the platform... Considering the cost of these cars, imo most of the complaints on this forum are constructive criticism for Nissan as more threads are of the extremely valid than petty whining complaints.

There's minor issues like the one OP mentioned but theres also several long lasting issues that Nissan just seems to refuse to fix. Not liking aspects of your car doesnt mean you dislike it as a whole. I also disagree that the public's opinions dont matter. Especially for the Z which isnt selling remotely as well as Nissan wanted it to. If fixing a major public gripe will lead to more sales and better consumer reviews, it's more likely to get fixed. Nissan isnt going to go out of their way to spend more money and quickly fix issues unless theres a segment of owners holding their feet to the fire via press and public perception. Will they ignore alot of it? Sure. But some of it will also cause positive changes for future models.

GZ3 · 06-19-2015, 08:37 PM

Poeple bitch allot, its an amazing sports car... But the gripe that does hold water is it needs more power to keep being competitive. The gen maro is kill the bang for crown off the 5.0... These were thr Z's direct compitition... Its just fallen behind on power. But i realized the grass isnt greener on thr other side. This is thr car for me

vtec to vvel · 06-19-2015, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Birdfan67

Being in the auto industry as I've been for years..BMW,Mercedes,Honda,Acura...there is NO perfect car. Even the 100K BMW 7 series which is a nice car...will garner complaints. There is going to be something to complain about or make a wish list. Manufactures make all efforts to listen to the consumer, tough to please millions and millions of people for 1 particular model.
Taking the Z for what it is...conforming to affordability, dependability it's hard to beat.. sure you can buy Camaro's, Mustangs and such...but look how early and often the body style changes..and rebates they put on them the week they come out.
Sometimes being on the road is a pain in the ***...I always have trucks creeping on my rear end...i look in my rear view mirror and all I see is grill...it pisses me off to no end.
and parking is always challenging... I park wwwwaaaaay out in the sticks at the mall...and some goon will park next to my Z in a piece of ****..heaven help if I see a ding !
Any way chin up...The Z is one of the highest rated sports cars you can buy...overall dependability is second to none.

And it's sexy !!

couldn't agree more. as i have said, there's always room for improvement for any car company.

i have no tolerance for tailgaters - there's no reason for it. so i make sure that they are even later to wherever they need to go.

parking is a challenge. it's funny how that happens, where you park in no man's land and some douche always decides to park next to you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuruzero

I love my Z too but honestly if there's anywhere I'd expect heavy praise and heavy criticisms it'd be a car forum dedicated to the platform... Considering the cost of these cars, imo most of the complaints on this forum are constructive criticism for Nissan as more threads are of the extremely valid than petty whining complaints.

There's minor issues like the one OP mentioned but theres also several long lasting issues that Nissan just seems to refuse to fix. Not liking aspects of your car doesnt mean you dislike it as a whole.I also disagree that the public's opinions dont matter.Especially for the Z which isnt selling remotely as well as Nissan wanted it to. If fixing a major public gripe will lead to more sales and better consumer reviews, it's more likely to get fixed. Nissan isnt going to go out of their way to spend more money and quickly fix issues unless theres a segment of owners holding their feet to the fire via press and public perception. Will they ignore alot of it? Sure. But some of it will also cause positive changes for future models.

if you are a major company, like nissan, chances are, the public's opinion will not matter, and if it does, it does not carry as much weight as you think. for a major company, profit > public opinion. you even stated that they will ignore alot of it, if not all of it.

public gripe doesn't mean sh*t to car companies because even if you don't buy it, there will always be that audience that will. take a look at ford - ABSOLUTE GARBAGE, yet people buy them.

also, if you actually read the threads that contain the complaints, it's more of a venting fest, rather than constructive criticism. there are some that are legit complaints, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3

Poeple bitch allot, its an amazing sports car... But the gripe that does hold water is it needs more power to keep being competitive. The gen maro is kill the bang for crown off the 5.0... These were thr Z's direct compitition... Its just fallen behind on power. But i realized the grass isnt greener on thr other side. This is thr car for me

yes, i do agree that the Z has fallen in ranks in terms of its competition. however, keep this in mind. the 370Z came out in late 2008, with no engine refresh/updates and still uses the same engine. for what it is, it was on top when it first debuted. for example, take a look at a 2009 ford mustang and how many refreshes/engine upgrades did it receive from then to now?

06-19-2015, 04:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: 813 Posts: 3,903 Drives: 13 Z Rep Power: 499553	Who loves/hates their Z? Lately, I'm seeing a bunch of threads where people are starting to get annoyed/upset with their Z's and, ultimately, with Nissan. I, for one, don't have any complaints about my Z and like everything about it. This being my second Nissan (traded my 07 Z for my 09 Z) and coming from owning 4 Honda vehicles, I thought Nissan did a good job overall, with a few minor omissions: 1. I wish the stock exhaust note on the 370Z was as deep/pronounced as the 350Z. 2. I wish the rear quarter panel window was a big bigger/functional as the 350Z. 3. I wish there was a rear windshield wiper like on the 350Z. 4. I wish there was a trunk release button on the key fob like on the 350Z. Do I think Nissan could have done a better job? Yes. Do I think there are missing elements that would make the 370Z a bit better? Yes. There's always room for improvement, but nevertheless, IMO, Nissan did a good job. What I don't understand is why people btch and gripe about their cars? If you don't like it, trade it. I didn't go with another Honda vehicle because I wanted to know what torque felt like, so I went with Nissan. The car companies are there to make money - they won't give two shts about your complaints/opinions/threats to buy from another car manufacturer/etc. AntiVenom likes this. __________________ Don't like what I post? Too bad. I really don't give a sh!t

06-19-2015, 05:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 13,938 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 240204	Love. 1. Get an FI exhaust. 2. Adjust your mirrors properly 3. Get a JDM or European model. 4. Can't help you there. onzedge, Felix 808 and Joker_J like this. __________________ Member of kenchan's "photoshopped mods" and "proper offsets" gang.

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	I love my Z. Great car. I have not had an issue. But if this thread was made because I wrote about the Z rumor mill? Then as stated. I hate the fact the next generation Z may be a downgrade as I was looking to buy another one. And I hate the fact the rumor mill doesn't promote any excitement or enthusiasm for the next generation car. Instead it makes Nissan as a company look washy washy. Especially with the current lineup of humdrum CVT vehicles P's_Z and Nader Og like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

06-19-2015, 06:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
Birdfan67 Base Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Chesapeake Va. Posts: 89 Drives: 2017 NISSAN NISMO Rep Power: 9	Being in the auto industry as I've been for years..BMW,Mercedes,Honda,Acura...there is NO perfect car. Even the 100K BMW 7 series which is a nice car...will garner complaints. There is going to be something to complain about or make a wish list. Manufactures make all efforts to listen to the consumer, tough to please millions and millions of people for 1 particular model. Taking the Z for what it is...conforming to affordability, dependability it's hard to beat.. sure you can buy Camaro's, Mustangs and such...but look how early and often the body style changes..and rebates they put on them the week they come out. Sometimes being on the road is a pain in the *...I always have trucks creeping on my rear end...i look in my rear view mirror and all I see is grill...it pisses me off to no end. and parking is always challenging... I park wwwwaaaaay out in the sticks at the mall...and some goon will park next to my Z in a piece of **..heaven help if I see a ding ! Any way chin up...The Z is one of the highest rated sports cars you can buy...overall dependability is second to none. And it's sexy !! P's_Z and Sonny10MM like this.

06-19-2015, 06:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	Washa washa washa washa! Z_ealot, jordyking and Nader Og like this.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	This thread reminded me of washing machine sound..

06-19-2015, 07:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
MagmaRed370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,468 Drives: 14' 370z Sport Magma Rep Power: 12	Love the Z. Heritage. Gerg likes this.

06-19-2015, 07:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
RomerZ Base Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 20 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370Z PW Rep Power: 9	I love my Z and will probably get a second 370Z in the near future just because I love it so much. 2016 Subaru BRZ STi is pretty nice but nothing compares to a Z to me.

06-19-2015, 08:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 13,938 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 240204	I only wish the stereo controls were on the right side of the steering wheel. Is there a DIY for that? Merv likes this. __________________ Member of kenchan's "photoshopped mods" and "proper offsets" gang.

06-19-2015, 08:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
kuruzero Base Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Here and There Posts: 30 Drives: 14 370z Nismo Rep Power: 10	I love my Z too but honestly if there's anywhere I'd expect heavy praise and heavy criticisms it'd be a car forum dedicated to the platform... Considering the cost of these cars, imo most of the complaints on this forum are constructive criticism for Nissan as more threads are of the extremely valid than petty whining complaints. There's minor issues like the one OP mentioned but theres also several long lasting issues that Nissan just seems to refuse to fix. Not liking aspects of your car doesnt mean you dislike it as a whole. I also disagree that the public's opinions dont matter. Especially for the Z which isnt selling remotely as well as Nissan wanted it to. If fixing a major public gripe will lead to more sales and better consumer reviews, it's more likely to get fixed. Nissan isnt going to go out of their way to spend more money and quickly fix issues unless theres a segment of owners holding their feet to the fire via press and public perception. Will they ignore alot of it? Sure. But some of it will also cause positive changes for future models.

06-19-2015, 08:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	Poeple bitch allot, its an amazing sports car... But the gripe that does hold water is it needs more power to keep being competitive. The gen maro is kill the bang for crown off the 5.0... These were thr Z's direct compitition... Its just fallen behind on power. But i realized the grass isnt greener on thr other side. This is thr car for me __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

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