Bmw claims. Manuals and Dual clutch will be phased out...

Cyber370

The best Ferrari and probably the most visceral sports car ever made is the F40 and it only came one way, manual. I don't think it would've worked any other way. It may be antiquated but nothing can match the feel of shifting your own gears. It's a shame that the younger generation will never experience it. In the meantime, check out this vid. Enjoy

https://youtu.be/7mZdkfEeJH4


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UNKNOWN_370

The most visceral car now is the 4c. It has a dual clutch. Lol.

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MaysEffect

Lotus Exige v6 cup - manual

UNKNOWN_370

I don't think we get that car here though.

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Cyber370

Correct! Nor can we get an Elise. Lotus says these models will be coming back to NA eventually but based on Lotus' financial/ ownership situation, I doubt it.


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ZCanadian

Based on the fact that Lotus has been bought by Geely, I'm thinking there is a good chance they will finally find their way back. The question will be, will they remain a true Lotus. Looking at the Volvo precident, there's hope.

sunkist350z

Love the 4c, but isn't the gear box straight from the dodge dart?

ZCanadian

Well, that's a bit of artistic license. It is true that the same DCT was available on one model Dart. The engine is a sleeved version of the same powerplant as the Giulietta QV. The heater controls are from a Fiat Punto. The list goes on. It just seems that there's a fair bit of symbiosis going on here, as none of the above are a patch on the 4C. And the larger volume / alternate applications of these parts means that a replacement isn't going to cost Ferrari (or even Mercedes) money.

UNKNOWN_370

At the end of the day, it's how the transmission has been reinforced and tuned. Not how many or the type models just so happen to have it.

The Genesis coupe has a Maserati ZF n no one gives a shyt. All they see is Hyundai. Feel me?

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ZCanadian

Don't know if the tranny has been changed, but yes tuned for the application.
And a car is a lot more than just one part. If the Dart had been on the diet that Alfa gave the 4C, and also had its engine/turbo/ECU, mid-engine layout, brakes, suspension, dimensions, ride height, seating position, steering rack, and lack of cup holders, navi system or rear seats, then it would be an equally raw, sports-driving experience. I'd buy one in a heartbeat (for Dart money, LOL).

That's why, to me, the loss of the traditional 3-pedal manual is not that big a deal. Sure, it means something to be able to do a series of perfect shifts. But, if car makers can give you something else in exchange to augment the experience, then maybe it's time for that. One last hurrah, before we're all sentenced to self-driving monotony cells.