Unimpressed by the 400z

Voice59 · 01-13-2021, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 2017370ZBlack

To the OP, complaining about a "lack of innovation" on the upcoming "400Z", what do you think they should have done? I like the simplicity. Less stuff to break. Tech for tech's sake sucks.

I have a 2017 370Z which through an aftermarket head unit has Android Auto. The only things that I wish the car could have is blind spot monitoring and ventilated seats would be great too.

I understand Nissan's budget on the 400Z was around $240 million. A total new design from the ground up on a new chassis is over a billion. I'm amazed that they are going to release a 400Z at all, considering Nissan's rough last few years and the world economic doldrums we are in. They don't sell enough of cars like this to justify dropping a billion on a total new design.

If Nissan had done a total new design from the ground up, 400Z's or whatever they would have called it would probably start at $50K and go up from there.

The new 400Z will have a V6 twin turbo, 6-speed manual or probably a 9-speed auto, updated safety features and blind spot monitoring, updated infotainment, revised chassis, good build quality/fit and finish, and great looks. What more is there to want for a reasonable price?

So they're going to put the same engine from the Q60, more than likely the same manual transmission from the current model Z, but put in a brand new 9 speed auto? LOL. Ok man...

Here's a quote from Car and Driver:

Like its beastly brother, the Nissan GT-R, the 400Z is expected to be powered by a twin-turbocharged V-6. But, instead of the fire-breathing 565-hp 3.8-liter that’s under the hood of the GT-R, the 400Z will likely get the 300-hp 3.0-liter mill from the Infiniti Q60. It's also possible that high-performance NISMO variant could get the 400-hp version of that engine that's currently exclusive to the Q60 Red Sport 400. While all-wheel drive is available in the Infiniti, we expect Nissan will stick with rear-wheel drive exclusively for the 400Z. Nissan has promised a six-speed manual transmission as standard, but we expect that a seven-speed automatic will also be offered as an option.

And although this article is old, I haven't seen any others that mention a 9 speed auto.

Firebase99 · 01-14-2021, 10:28 AM

I'm on the fence. My Genesis coupe is paid off. Its getting a little long in the tooth. Its a GREAT GT car for south Florida. It is NOT a sports car like my '13 Z was. This 400Z is a day late and a dollar short IMHO. The tech is already outdated (yes, that stuff matters to alot of potential buyers, including myself). The powerplant is no surprise. Im happy with it but not overjoyed. Obviously, I understand why they used it. Styling is so-so. I like the wheels and rear, side and front is just meh. Im very disappointed a DCT isnt an option. My slushbox auto 8 in my Genesis feels like a bulldozer compared to my girlfriends DCT in her Veloster. If I lived in Montana id get a manual, not so in south Florida traffic. No DCT, thats a deal breaker for me. So I plan on driving my Genny into the ground and having no car payment for a while. Until I get the itch...Hyundai/Genesis......https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

NecioVato · 01-14-2021, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

I'm on the fence. My Genesis coupe is paid off. Its getting a little long in the tooth. Its a GREAT GT car for south Florida. It is NOT a sports car like my '13 Z was. This 400Z is a day late and a dollar short IMHO. The tech is already outdated (yes, that stuff matters to alot of potential buyers, including myself). The powerplant is no surprise. Im happy with it but not overjoyed. Obviously, I understand why they used it. Styling is so-so. I like the wheels and rear, side and front is just meh. Im very disappointed a DCT isnt an option. My slushbox auto 8 in my Genesis feels like a bulldozer compared to my girlfriends DCT in her Veloster. If I lived in Montana id get a manual, not so in south Florida traffic. No DCT, thats a deal breaker for me. So I plan on driving my Genny into the ground and having no car payment for a while. Until I get the itch...Hyundai/Genesis......https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

With the way cars hold their value - in particular Hyundai (well I guess you could say ALL of them except maybe Hondas and Toyotas); if you can wait it out for 2yrs - probably be able to find a used one for a really good price. I know I'm going to hold out for a couple of years with my current Z - mod it a little and then see what comes of the used car market - I would like to get a CTR if possible but the Veloster N is definitely high on the list. Keep the Z bc the value won't be worth trading it in at that point and use the new car as a daily for the most part.

01-14-2021, 10:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14035	I'm on the fence. My Genesis coupe is paid off. Its getting a little long in the tooth. Its a GREAT GT car for south Florida. It is NOT a sports car like my '13 Z was. This 400Z is a day late and a dollar short IMHO. The tech is already outdated (yes, that stuff matters to alot of potential buyers, including myself). The powerplant is no surprise. Im happy with it but not overjoyed. Obviously, I understand why they used it. Styling is so-so. I like the wheels and rear, side and front is just meh. Im very disappointed a DCT isnt an option. My slushbox auto 8 in my Genesis feels like a bulldozer compared to my girlfriends DCT in her Veloster. If I lived in Montana id get a manual, not so in south Florida traffic. No DCT, thats a deal breaker for me. So I plan on driving my Genny into the ground and having no car payment for a while. Until I get the itch...Hyundai/Genesis......https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/ __________________ '14 3.8 Genesis Coupe, '13 Volvo S60, '04 Honda Accord, '13 370Z-sold, '05 350Z Touring-sold, '92 300Z Twin Turbo-sold, '82 280ZX-gone, '79 260Z-gone

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