[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Originally Posted by njobe89

STi is 300/300 i believe, but they're also almost 40k loaded here.

Originally Posted by RicerX

I have people respectfully disagree with me everyday, but at least they can articulate a coherent point in doing so. It's not just that we disagree, it's that the "point" you're making in your previous posts isn't rooted in reality whatsoever. However, now that you're taking more time to articulate yourself, it's getting much better.

In order to accurately speculate as to what Nissan will do with this thing, you have to understand how Nissan is going to approach this from a business case because they're currently in love with their billions in profits. They have to build the next Z to make money, or they won't build it, and how they start is how cost-effective it will be for them to design and produce.



Ok the Camaro is losing weight and adding power for the first time in its history. I overlooked that to my detriment. However, the Mustang gained weight and not much power to offset it. So perhaps you're also shooting yourself in the foot by leaving that out of your rebuttal?

Let's focus on this reality, however, which still reinforces my original point - Chevy is doing this on the Alpha platform that is shared across three vehicles with more in the pipeline (CTS, ATS, and Camaro with future vehicles being considered, and these are all volume cars!) This helps them create more profit and in turn increase flexibility. The Mustang does not yet share its platform with anyone, but it's a long established VOLUME car that Ford can afford to do more with, and it's consistently the #1 or #2 seller in its segment. What does Nissan have that they can create this type of scenario with? If they're going to downsize, they can't share a platform with the Q50. If they're going to stay the same, then it looks like they would continue using the FM platform that is currently the G/Z, but with the G/Q40 being done after this year, that's not even cost effective anymore, so that's very unlikely.

The Z isn't a volume car, and as such, it won't get volume R&D dollars to create "optimum design scenarios" unless it streamlines with some other strategy Nissan has not yet revealed.



Hey! We agree here. But what about for the other two motors you think they should have available a la pony cars? Where would those come from?



We also agree here.



Many would argue that it already is in 370Z form, including myself, but Nissan has already indicated that it won't go this direction for the next gen.



We also agree here. You are showing great improvement.



Many, including some of the longtime Nissan guys that were around when the 240Z came out, would disagree with you here. Today's definition of "affordable sports car" is different than what it was in the 70s when there was less competition, less diversity in the market, and less money to be thrown around for cars from prospective buyers.

So I proposed to you this - would a car that's 2800lbs-ish with a 250hp/250tq-ish turbo 4 on a solid platform that costs around $27k really be such a bad thing?

Originally Posted by Rusty

Get over it. Quit crying in your beers. The next Z is a crossover. PERIOD!!! Why keep trying to say what you would like in the next Z sports car. Ain't going to happen. How about talking about a more comfortable rear seat, more cup holders, hidden storage areas, all wheel drive. Stuff like that.

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony

Originally Posted by Rusty

The Porsche Cayman GT4 is sold out. Don't even bother trying to find one from what I've read. Also Porsche said that they're going with smaller motors with turbo's. The 911's will have 3.0L twins turbos with 385hp for 2017.

Originally Posted by FPenvy

one was at cars and coffee last week all blacked out. sexy in person....sadly still an outdated manual gearbox.

Originally Posted by FPenvy

when did this whole crossover rumor become fact? lol

there's no evidence of it aside from a website that isn't credible. also the writer only reached the 6th grade based on what I read.

Originally Posted by Rusty

Porsche asked what their customers wanted. And they delivered.


More then one place is reporting it.

Will the next Nissan Z be a crossover?

I'm Really Hoping This Nissan Crossover Concept Isn't The Next Z

Nissan teases possible Z crossover concept in Frankfurt | Digital Trends

Is The Next Nissan Z Going To Be A Crossover?

Nissan just dropped a major hint about its future sports car

..............and this is just a sampling of what's being reported. Which one of these writers only reached 6th grade?

Originally Posted by wanderer1234

If the Z reaches the 50k+ range there's gonna be a new thread...."Nissan needs to add more power to compete with the Corvette, it's about the same price"!

It's a never ending cycle. Be happy with what Nissan is making and enjoy your nice little 2 seater RWD sports car. ��

Originally Posted by triso07

You are coming across as a fanboy. Just be happy with what you have = just accept whatever **** Nissan slings at us? No. I like both the 350 and 370z. This is about the future though, and I certainly do not like the rumblings that been coming from Nissan. 7 years into the 370z and we're not getting teasers about the next Z we're getting rumors about miata competitors and crossovers.

Originally Posted by wanderer1234

Lol. Fanboy?! So I'm a fanboy because I accept the fact that Nissan probably won't make anything more powerful and faster than what we already have? In my honest opinion you're wanting too much from Nissan.

If you're salty at Nissan for not making a cheap fast lightweight car take your business elsewhere they won't care and that means one less Z on the road which makes mine even more rare.