[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Magic Bus · 09-12-2016, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaeMaestro

Ive heard an extra 80lbs or so for the tt kit. But i didnt look it up. . .

The engine itself is 39 lbs lighter but the additional piping etc adds 57 lbs so total weight increase is 18 lbs. Many articles list 80 lbs increase, but that's referring to torque increase.

Magic Bus · 09-12-2016, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Same chassis, different body panels, better suspension, different tune...

Yep. New Q50/60 appears to have a heavier front to rear weight distribution vs the outgoing models. If done to the Z, it may throw off some of it's handling abilities.

According to Nissan/Infiniti the new Q60 is lower, wider and has a lower center of gravity vs the outgoing model. Not sure if this makes up for a heavier front end, but we'll see.

MagmaRed370z · 09-12-2016, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

All I'm saying is: If there is a new Infiniti sport coupe on the market (there is) that is typically rolled out a year before the Z, which is also effectively the "sister" car for the Z, then it is very likely there will be a new Z that will have all the power + better handling etc. as that particular Infiniti coupe.

In short: It's a-comin'

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-12-2016, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370

True. But the Z34 was revealed in Nov 2008, and released Feb 2009. So they let you know 4 - 6 months in advance. That's just my train of thought.

We're far off from 4-6 months in advance.you'll see one next summer. The Q has to come out first. And pray the Z is on the lightweight Grip Z chassis and not the bloated FM platform. This is sickening already.

brucelidat · 09-12-2016, 06:57 PM

I am totally okay with a 3400lb, 400hp Z if it has less NVH and a few comfort perks like the rearview camera/sensors. I don't need full leather or all the other gadgets and gizmos.

ThaeMaestro · 09-12-2016, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

We're far off from 4-6 months in advance.you'll see one next summer. The Q has to come out first. And pray the Z is on the lightweight Grip Z chassis and not the bloated FM platform. This is sickening already.

So im trying to find this weight on this Grip z and im not seeing it. Did nissan ever say what it was? Or was it like the rx concept where thy said they wanted to make a new roter engine that could run on hydrogen? Gonna need some sources. Couldnt find it...

SiPnPiZ · 09-12-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

I am totally okay with a 3400lb, 400hp Z if it has less NVH and a few comfort perks like the rearview camera/sensors. I don't need full leather or all the other gadgets and gizmos.

+1 the only tech i wish my Z had was a backup camera

Nithmo · 09-12-2016, 10:46 PM

It's not like you can't get one. :shrug:

Jordo! · 09-13-2016, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

Yep. New Q50/60 appears to have a heavier front to rear weight distribution vs the outgoing models. If done to the Z, it may throw off some of it's handling abilities.

According to Nissan/Infiniti the new Q60 is lower, wider and has a lower center of gravity vs the outgoing model. Not sure if this makes up for a heavier front end, but we'll see.

I'm intrigued by the possibility of "steer-by-wire" and how well that can be dialed in (certainly saves on weight), but the dynamic adjustable dampers on the red sport will hopefully find their way to at least a Nismo Z35. If so, I think we'll be happy

2016 Infiniti Q50 Red Sport 400 First Drive – Review – Car and Driver

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Originally Posted by car&driver

In other respects, the Red Sport handles quite nicely, especially with the two-mode “Dynamic Digital” dampers in Sport or Sport+ mode. (Both of these modes offer identical powertrain and suspension settings, but the latter allows a longer stability-control leash.) Body roll is well suppressed in both settings, and the brakes are excellent in terms of power and feel. Staggered-width Dunlop summer run-flats come standard on rear-wheel-drive Red Sport 400s and measure 245/40R-19 in front and 265/35R-19 at the rear

Haven't seen any Q60 skidpad numbers but I'm sure they'll be even better on the Z.

P's_Z · 09-13-2016, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SiPnPiZ

+1 the only tech i wish my Z had was a backup camera

In a Z, a backup camera or at least the beeping sensor should be standard. That, and blind spot monitoring when changing lanes!

Dirk McGurck · 09-13-2016, 07:00 AM

Creature comforts on my wishlist:

1 high quality, full range speaker situated in the center of the dash
Heated mirrors with blindspot bubbles
Apple CarPlay/Android whatever
Heated, power seats with memory
GPS from this decade
A high-beam indicator that doesn't blind me
If I have TPMS, have it indicate which ******* tire is low...

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-13-2016, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaeMaestro

So im trying to find this weight on this Grip z and im not seeing it. Did nissan ever say what it was? Or was it like the rx concept where thy said they wanted to make a new roter engine that could run on hydrogen? Gonna need some sources. Couldnt find it...

Grip Z chassis with awd was 2,550lbs. So that chassis can keep a RWD Z35 around 3,000lbs when you factor in the extra rigid chassis components for a sports car. But the grip Z was designed as a rigid chassis SPORT crossover so I could be understating?

You can either search the first 30 pages of this thread or search grip Z concept in this forum.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-13-2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by P's_Z

In a Z, a backup camera or at least the beeping sensor should be standard. That, and blind spot monitoring when changing lanes!

The Z is so small, BSM is unnecessary if you drive it like you're supposed to.

Chuck33079 · 09-13-2016, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The Z is so small, BSM is unnecessary if you adjust the mirrors the right way like you're supposed to.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-13-2016, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I'm intrigued by the possibility of "steer-by-wire" and how well that can be dialed in (certainly saves on weight), but the dynamic adjustable dampers on the red sport will hopefully find their way to at least a Nismo Z35. If so, I think we'll be happy

2016 Infiniti Q50 Red Sport 400 First Drive – Review – Car and Driver

Haven't seen any Q60 skidpad numbers but I'm sure they'll be even better on the Z.

How does it save on weight? It actually adds weight because the steering column is still there but it's disengaged for driving use. If there was an emergency, there's extra parts that will hydraulically shove the steering column into the steering wheel and you'll go from a emotionless video game driving experience to the most vague and numb EPAS in history aside from BMW's EPAS....

ILL PASS ON BOTH.... HYDRAULIC RACK N PINION ALL DAY OR BUST.

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