[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Dirk McGurck · 07-22-2016, 10:18 PM

Supra will match better against the GT-R most likely. And people have been talking about it coming back since 1 hour after the last one left the production line.

Volk Z · 07-22-2016, 11:27 PM

I was following the FT1 forums for a while and last I read Toyota released dollar amount figures being in the mid 50ks. If Toyota use their V6TT and have around 460-475hp and the new Z gets low 400s I would say it would be like the 90s 300zx vs Supra TT days. The Z will be slightly cheaper but all in all will be direct competition. The GTR at this point will be wayyy ahead of where the Supra will be positioned.

Dirk McGurck · 07-22-2016, 11:53 PM

There was talk of the Supra being a hybrid at one point, electric motors for the front wheels and gas/electric for the back. Then again, that's been said about the GTR, too. I'll believe it when me **** turns pink.

ped · 07-26-2016, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

There was talk of the Supra being a hybrid at one point, electric motors for the front wheels and gas/electric for the back. Then again, that's been said about the GTR, too. I'll believe it when me **** turns pink.

I have it on good authority that your **** is already pink (depending on which definition of "****" we're using).

Dirk McGurck · 07-22-2016, 11:55 PM

I do know that I will never want a hybrid sportscar. If I'm going to buy an impractical car, I want it to run on the tears of baby seals. Front-mid engine, RWD, V6TT, 6/7speed manual, max 3200lbs, same outer dimensions/wheelbase, nicer interior and I'll be a happy man.

COSMO · 07-23-2016, 09:34 AM

I can't help but to wonder how much the internals will handle with more boost with this new motor... I wouldn't think squeezing another 100hp out of it would be an issue with a chip, downpipes, intake, and exhaust..

Volk Z · 07-23-2016, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by COSMO

I can't help but to wonder how much the internals will handle with more boost with this new motor... I wouldn't think squeezing another 100hp out of it would be an issue with a chip, downpipes, intake, and exhaust..

I agree, the 350z had 240ish wheel hp and could handle around 400 wheel hp comfortably so I would assume Nissan would at least makean already forced induced motor with fairly strong internals.

I was thinking how it's funny a lot of doubters saying a 3000-3200 pound 400hp Z couldn't exist for 36-45k. Who would have thought you could ever buy a 435hp car for 29k brand new. (Mustang GT, yes I saw on autotrader for this price brand new)

As for the weight, it's already an impractical car with a 2 seater. The FRS with a backseat weighs around 2700 pounds. We have heard the Z possibly getting smaller so theoretically Nissan could make a 3000+ or- pound car.

Dirk McGurck · 07-23-2016, 03:45 PM

Don't we already have forged iternals? And our motors can already handle 500/600 without much done internally?

zguynate · 07-23-2016, 04:00 PM

We have a forged crank. Everything else is weak sauce.

Volk Z · 07-23-2016, 04:51 PM

Forged internals on the 370? Ummm definitely not...

Plus the biggest thing on a high compression engine going with an aftermarket turbo setup is a great tune. Internals upgraded would be a piece of mind for sure but a tune that doesn't blow the motor up would be a good investment.

Years ago putting forced induction on a high compression motor wasn't the most wise decision but they definitely came a long way with tuning!

COSMO · 07-23-2016, 05:24 PM

Amen to that brotha, well said.. It's funny because 8.5 comp used to be the magical number when going fi.. How times have changed, lol...

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Originally Posted by Volk Z

Forged internals on the 370? Ummm definitely not...

Plus the biggest thing on a high compression engine going with an aftermarket turbo setup is a great tune. Internals upgraded would be a piece of mind for sure but a tune that doesn't blow the motor up would be a good investment.

Years ago putting forced induction on a high compression motor wasn't the most wise decision but they definitely came a long way with tuning!

cofo11 · 07-23-2016, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volk Z

Forged internals on the 370? Ummm definitely not...

Plus the biggest thing on a high compression engine going with an aftermarket turbo setup is a great tune. Internals upgraded would be a piece of mind for sure but a tune that doesn't blow the motor up would be a good investment.

Years ago putting forced induction on a high compression motor wasn't the most wise decision but they definitely came a long way with tuning!

The only issue with tuning a high compression motor is that you can quickly run out of room unless you upgrade turbos. That's the reason a large number of the turbo Minis run meth. There is some power to be had there but nothing insane with tune and standard bolt ons alone.

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madeinjapan · 07-26-2016, 08:47 AM

JARblue · 07-26-2016, 08:56 AM

And how is that relevant to this thread?

madeinjapan · 07-26-2016, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

And how is that relevant to this thread?

07-22-2016, 10:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 22	Supra will match better against the GT-R most likely. And people have been talking about it coming back since 1 hour after the last one left the production line. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

07-22-2016, 11:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Volk Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Posts: 2,214 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 3067	I was following the FT1 forums for a while and last I read Toyota released dollar amount figures being in the mid 50ks. If Toyota use their V6TT and have around 460-475hp and the new Z gets low 400s I would say it would be like the 90s 300zx vs Supra TT days. The Z will be slightly cheaper but all in all will be direct competition. The GTR at this point will be wayyy ahead of where the Supra will be positioned. __________________ AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON

07-22-2016, 11:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 22	There was talk of the Supra being a hybrid at one point, electric motors for the front wheels and gas/electric for the back. Then again, that's been said about the GTR, too. I'll believe it when me **** turns pink. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

07-22-2016, 11:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 22	I do know that I will never want a hybrid sportscar. If I'm going to buy an impractical car, I want it to run on the tears of baby seals. Front-mid engine, RWD, V6TT, 6/7speed manual, max 3200lbs, same outer dimensions/wheelbase, nicer interior and I'll be a happy man. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

07-23-2016, 03:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 22	Don't we already have forged iternals? And our motors can already handle 500/600 without much done internally? __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

07-23-2016, 09:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
COSMO A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL Posts: 1,816 Drives: 2012 Touring GTM TT Rep Power: 20	I can't help but to wonder how much the internals will handle with more boost with this new motor... I wouldn't think squeezing another 100hp out of it would be an issue with a chip, downpipes, intake, and exhaust..

07-23-2016, 04:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 74	$60K for next new Z35? We have a forged crank. Everything else is weak sauce. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

07-23-2016, 04:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Volk Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Posts: 2,214 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 3067	Forged internals on the 370? Ummm definitely not... Plus the biggest thing on a high compression engine going with an aftermarket turbo setup is a great tune. Internals upgraded would be a piece of mind for sure but a tune that doesn't blow the motor up would be a good investment. Years ago putting forced induction on a high compression motor wasn't the most wise decision but they definitely came a long way with tuning! __________________ AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON Last edited by Volk Z; 07-23-2016 at 04:53 PM.

07-26-2016, 08:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
madeinjapan Banned Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: pistolvania Posts: 1,387 Drives: 2013 g37x 2014 370z Rep Power: 0

07-26-2016, 08:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	And how is that relevant to this thread? __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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