[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

NISMO IX

The dealer that sold me my car only sells around 1 Z per year. The lot is full of Jukes, Rouges, Muranos, Versas, Sentras, Altimas, And Frontiers.

Maybe 1-5 of the following, Titan, Titan XD, 370Z, Maxima, GT-R, Pathfinder, and Armada.

My 2014 Z actually sat on the lot for a year and a half before I bought it.

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Nithmo

The salesperson sells one per year, or the whole dealership sells one per year? Either way, I think your numbers are way off. The Titan is selling a ton around the country. No, not like the F150, but still more than what you're insinuating. I also see a bunch of Maximas and Pathfinders, so I dunno...

Jordo!

The 300Zx was offered in a 2+2 trim. I'm not overly concerned about a vestigial backseat if it will help Nissan keep these available. They can always be removed

I still got about a year until my Z is fully paid off, so I guess I'll just continue to sit back and wait...

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triso07

No 2+2! One of the things that makes the Z special is being a 2 seater. Those backseats would be completely useless anyway and would do nothing but add size and weight.

NISMO IX

I said dealer as in dealership, and my numbers are not way off for around here anyway. You are also in Canada. And I'm referring to 2015 and up. Four dealers around here, would you like to see their inventory lists? Lastly I'm talking around my area, I'm not insinuating anything.

Also, wanted to mention that I said what was on the lot, not what has been sold. I will admit that going back after and confirming, the dealers around here carry a few more Pathfinders than expected.

But the 370Z though, my numbers are NOT way off. They dealer told me this and a different dealer still has a roadster that has been there for over a year now.

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RicerX

You're also basically in Canada

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NISMO IX

Wish I lived in Canada at this point.....

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njobe89

the z just doesn't sell that well.

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Magic Bus

For the 2016 year 5,913 Z's sold in US and 932 for Canada. Prior year 7,391 & 688 respectively. Definitely not a big seller.

Nithmo

Those aren't bad numbers for a fairly expensive and a completely limited (in terms of use) car. The Z is a fun car and little more than that. You can't carry anything in it, it's not practical for really anything, and as we all know, it's even a bit lacking in terms of the fun department, when it comes to the competition. On top of that, it's a 6 or 7 year model.

Honda/Acura would kill to move 7-8000 units of some of their cars, no joke.

Granted, the 350z sold much better, but part of that is due to the Z hiatus after the 300zx. People were excited for the car when it returned.

s2krazyyy

I really wouldnt mind if the Z went on a hiatus similar to the 300ZX. That would give Nissan a few years to work on a platform that is its own and doesnt share anything with other platforms besides maybe an engine. The 370z is already a great car if you look at it on its own and ignore the competition. Does the new muscle cars have more power and seem more appealing than a 370z? Yes but honestly those cars are still very heavy compared to the Z and IMO you cant substitute the lighter feeling by adding power. The Z is a STEAL on the used market(you can find pretty low mileage Z's for under 25k but you all knew that already), what car on the used market that give the combo of power, handling, realiability and great drivability for under 25k? There really isnt much in its price point that I can think of and the cars you can find C5 Z06, S2k, Cayman and BRZ have their pros and cons. I think the 370z has the best combo of a DD, cheap to maintain, power, modability and something that is fun to drive at a bargain price. They are already a gem for what you get used, I can only imagine what it would be like if they discontinued them and didnt announce plans for a new Z(especially with the new G and its DAS
system ). The Z WILL be missed if its discontinued, you know what they say.. "you dont know what you have until its gone".

UNKNOWN_370

So what do you call a mild refresh of the Nismo model only in the year that we were supposed to get a new Z???? These Z'S have been the same car going on 9 years this year. Just cuz there's Z's on a lot doesn't mean that Nissan is doing anything with our Z's right now. I think for 2.5 years. We been on a hiatus.

Changing a body style and upping gear ratios isn't my idea of Nissan doing anything but putting lipstick on a pig. The Z is the same old pig. So it's on hiatus.

I agree that Z the is a great car on its own. You're completely right about that. Like I stated before. Nissan should at least have the decency to want to compete against itself and make itself better, if it's not going to compete in the market?

Give us that FVCKIN VR engine already for fvck sakes. Damn Nissan!!! Leave in the hydraulic steering. Leave in the e brake. Tune the 7 speed n give it higher power tolerances and quicker shifts Redesign the interior and make the exterior evolutionary. That's all they gotta do. N fvck EV's.... shyt!!!!

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triso07

I think the Z is very useable. I've packed an incredible amount of gear in the hatch and gone on vacation in it with my wife.

2 seat only (hatch retained)
3000-3100lbs
350-400hp (turbo 6) (even though I would prefer NA TBH)
Brembo brakes (option)
Recaro Seats (option)
7 speed manual
7 speed DCT (option)
Better handling and braking
Slightly better materials for the interior
Slightly better sound proofing
NO vmotion grill

That will pull people aspiring to a Z from BRZ and FRS, people who want a Cayman but see the Z as a cheaper faster alternative, and if priced competitively people buying muscle cars who really just want a quick sporty coupe.

UNKNOWN_370

The engine options are already their. So it wouldn't be 350hp. You'd have a 300hp and a 400hp. You might see an entry level 4 banger between 211 and 241 hp depending on what tune they go with.

n/a we won't see for a while. Better to upgrade to a current Nismo n call it a day if NA is your thing

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Nithmo

Sorry, but this is one of the dumbest lists I've ever seen

What you're asking for is a 80-90k car.

3000-3100 pounds? Keep dreaming.

Better sound proofing? It's a sports car, not a luxury car. You also want it lightweight. Which is it?

Better handling? What's so bad about the handling? How do you make it "better"? ("I dunno, just do something!")

2 transmission options? Sorry, Nissan doesn't sell enough of these to offer that, nor do they make enough money on these to offer that. Yes, I know there's the AT and MT now, but something tells me what you're asking for is cost prohibitive yet again.

Brembo brakes? Why? Are the Akebonos bad? Yeah, Brembos are better because they're smaller and lighter and I believe dissipate heat better, but they don't magically make you stop better in normal daily or even "fun" street driving. You have to hauling *** through a track for them to make a difference.

Why 7MT? Because Porsche is doing it? How many are they selling? I'd be happy if the new Z even had a manual.

Nissan isnt building and selling a track purpose car. They never really did with the Z. Even the Nismo is just a slightly better version that isn't made to handle the track very well. The market for that is WAY too small for such a car. The Z is built for the street and it's brakes and suspension are more than adequate for that (assuming you get a higher trim).

What you're asking for is called an M3 or M4. Now compare the price tags and ask if you really want all that stuff again.