Hellaflush is now... Illegal?!?!

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Z1NONLY

They need a concrete definition of "unsafe".

If "unsafe" is written into law as "whatever an officer says", then this is a really bad idea.

"Looks stupid", "douche-bag car", "dumb", etc. This is subjective BS that makes for terrible laws.

So I didn't see anything in the article about the definition of what the law says is "unsafe".

...And I am not a fan of Hella-flush.

If i were to guess, since they are basing this on the vehicle being unsafe, they are talking about the tire issue not contacting the road. If that were the case, the smart thing to do would be put something into effect with percentages. Meaning, if more than 50% of your tire is not making contact with the road, you're screwed. That would make sense

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

i think they should appoint me as the national stance advisor.

finally obama would do something AND get it right in his 8 year joke.

i would be fair but firm (giggity) in my stance against stanced vehicles.

FPenvy · 08-13-2014, 03:47 PM

pretty much everything that is "stance" is unsafe.

tons of negative camber which reduces the tires contact patch resulting in little to no traction = unsafe.

tires that are many sizes too small exposing the wheel and even sealing to the inside step of the wheels sometimes for desired looks. all resulting in a raised chance of popping the bead and having esentially a blow-out while driving = unsafe

super low hardened suspension (non-air ride) to where there is little to no give. this susepension then offers no give or abosrption of the bumps of normal driving which can result in bouncing and losing control of the vehicle = unsafe.

shall i continue? lol

Haboob · 08-13-2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

Well when you've got a tire that's 12" wide, and only 3" of that is making contact with the road, i can see where they're coming from. Doesnt take much for some rain to hit the ground and stability goes right out the window.. On the plus side.. Now would be a good time to hit up the Quebec classifieds for some used 19x12's lol

That can be said about a lot of styles though. If the car is too low it poses a problem, too high: problem, etc.

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Originally Posted by 1st

Has it always not been? I thought your headlights could not be lower then 21 inches off the ground.

That's not law everywhere. Well, maybe in the Nazi state of Canada it is.

They should just consider it part of California. 'Tards.

Haboob · 08-13-2014, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy

pretty much everything that is "stance" is unsafe.

tons of negative camber which reduces the tires contact patch resulting in little to no traction = unsafe.

tires that are many sizes too small exposing the wheel and even sealing to the inside step of the wheels sometimes for desired looks. all resulting in a raised chance of popping the bead and having esentially a blow-out while driving = unsafe

super low hardened suspension (non-air ride) to where there is little to no give. this susepension then offers no give or abosrption of the bumps of normal driving which can result in bouncing and losing control of the vehicle = unsafe.

shall i continue? lol

Air suspension can tear causing an accident.

Screws can come loose, causing an accident.

Let's ban everything that anyone could like! Yeah!

Also, with my wheels having greater than OEM offsets, they're considered "stanced" (just not super duper stanced, just flush with the edges of the car) so... that's unsafe? Didn't feel unsafe flying around the mountain this weekend.

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob

That can be said about a lot of styles though. If the car is too low it poses a problem, too high: problem, etc.

You're absolutely right.. And they are all UNSAFE lol. No matter how much we dont wanna admit it, just about every law thats made, theres a good reason for it. I see NO valid argument that can be said about having just the inner lip of your tire touching the road NOT be a bad idea on the road.

But i welcome someone to try

Haboob · 08-13-2014, 03:57 PM

It's more fuel efficient, minimal friction with the road.

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob

Air suspension can tear causing an accident.

Screws can come loose, causing an accident.

Let's ban everything that anyone could like! Yeah!

Also, with my wheels having greater than OEM offsets, they're considered "stanced" (just not super duper stanced, just flush with the edges of the car) so... that's unsafe? Didn't feel unsafe flying around the mountain this weekend.

On that premise, tires can tear causing an accident too, so lets make them illegal! lol.

We arent talking about having a little camber because of offset wheels. Its tires that are sitting at an extreme angle not making contact with the road, is the safety issue.

FPenvy · 08-13-2014, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob

Air suspension can tear causing an accident.

Screws can come loose, causing an accident.

Let's ban everything that anyone could like! Yeah!

Also, with my wheels having greater than OEM offsets, they're considered "stanced" (just not super duper stanced, just flush with the edges of the car) so... that's unsafe? Didn't feel unsafe flying around the mountain this weekend.

well with you behind the wheel everyone else felt unsafe

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob

It's more fuel efficient, minimal friction with the road.

AHHHHHHH... i didnt think of that hahaha

FPenvy · 08-13-2014, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob

It's more fuel efficient, minimal friction with the road.

this is why the terrorists are winning

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 04:02 PM

You know what would be SOOOOOOO hilarious.. The article i posted the link to has a 350Z as the main picture AND its someone from Cali.. Im waiting for the owner to pop up in here saying how badass hellaflush is

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 04:04 PM

Ironic that the license plate is "OFCR PLZ" OHHHHH please officer.. Let me keep my wheels! lol

Read T · 08-13-2014, 04:04 PM

Not a fan of the "hella flush" movement. I do like the look of wheels that are acutally flush, not cambered to hell. However, I'd be afraid that any lowered car with wide wheels/tires or modified suspension is now in jeopardy of getting a ticket.

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Read T

Not a fan of the "hella flush" movement. I do like the look of wheels that are acutally flush, not cambered to hell. However, I'd be afraid that any lowered car with wide wheels/tires or modified suspension is now in jeopardy of getting a ticket.

Ummmmm.... Arent we already? lol

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