Hellaflush is now... Illegal?!?!

Z1NONLY · 08-13-2014, 03:36 PM

They need a concrete definition of "unsafe".

If "unsafe" is written into law as "whatever an officer says", then this is a really bad idea.

"Looks stupid", "douche-bag car", "dumb", etc. This is subjective BS that makes for terrible laws.

So I didn't see anything in the article about the definition of what the law says is "unsafe".

...And I am not a fan of Hella-flush.

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Z1NONLY

They need a concrete definition of "unsafe".

If "unsafe" is written into law as "whatever an officer says", then this is a really bad idea.

"Looks stupid", "douche-bag car", "dumb", etc. This is subjective BS that makes for terrible laws.

So I didn't see anything in the article about the definition of what the law says is "unsafe".

...And I am not a fan of Hella-flush.

If i were to guess, since they are basing this on the vehicle being unsafe, they are talking about the tire issue not contacting the road. If that were the case, the smart thing to do would be put something into effect with percentages. Meaning, if more than 50% of your tire is not making contact with the road, you're screwed. That would make sense

Z1NONLY · 08-13-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

If i were to guess, since they are basing this on the vehicle being unsafe, they are talking about the tire issue not contacting the road. If that were the case, the smart thing to do would be put something into effect with percentages. Meaning, if more than 50% of your tire is not making contact with the road, you're screwed. That would make sense

But 49% of a 315/40 18 is still more contact patch than 51% of 175/80 15 econo-box tire?

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Z1NONLY

But 49% of a 315/40 18 is still more contact patch than 51% of 175/80 15 econo-box tire?

Right, but are you forgetting that tires are made to perform flat on the ground. Sidewalls stretch and grip the road, grooves in the tire divert water to better handling in rain. With half the tire off the ground, it cant do those thing, not to mention putting twice the stress on the inside sidewall (which is only designed to handle a certain weight limit) So, ill take 100% of a 175/80 over 30% of a 315 any day.

FPenvy · 08-13-2014, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

Right, but are you forgetting that tires are made to perform flat on the ground. Sidewalls stretch and grip the road, grooves in the tire divert water to better handling in rain. With half the tire off the ground, it cant do those thing, not to mention putting twice the stress on the inside sidewall (which is only designed to handle a certain weight limit) So, ill take 100% of a 175/80 over 30% of a 315 any day.

also throw in the fact that typically the outside 1/3 of the tire tread block is the real part designed for traction.

on a stance vehicle thats the first part that gets pulled away from the pavement.

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

also throw in the fact that typically the outside 1/3 of the tire tread block is the real part designed for traction.

on a stance vehicle thats the first part that gets pulled away from the pavement.

WOW... twice in one day

FPenvy · 08-13-2014, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

WOW... twice in one day

well when you actually make GOOD points i cant help but to agree and also add extra info that you missed

Haboob · 08-13-2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

Well when you've got a tire that's 12" wide, and only 3" of that is making contact with the road, i can see where they're coming from. Doesnt take much for some rain to hit the ground and stability goes right out the window.. On the plus side.. Now would be a good time to hit up the Quebec classifieds for some used 19x12's lol

That can be said about a lot of styles though. If the car is too low it poses a problem, too high: problem, etc.

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Originally Posted by 1st

Has it always not been? I thought your headlights could not be lower then 21 inches off the ground.

That's not law everywhere. Well, maybe in the Nazi state of Canada it is.

They should just consider it part of California. 'Tards.

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob

That can be said about a lot of styles though. If the car is too low it poses a problem, too high: problem, etc.

You're absolutely right.. And they are all UNSAFE lol. No matter how much we dont wanna admit it, just about every law thats made, theres a good reason for it. I see NO valid argument that can be said about having just the inner lip of your tire touching the road NOT be a bad idea on the road.

But i welcome someone to try

08-13-2014, 03:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Z1NONLY Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SW Florida Posts: 355 Drives: 16 FR-S Rep Power: 42	They need a concrete definition of "unsafe". If "unsafe" is written into law as "whatever an officer says", then this is a really bad idea. "Looks stupid", "douche-bag car", "dumb", etc. This is subjective BS that makes for terrible laws. So I didn't see anything in the article about the definition of what the law says is "unsafe". ...And I am not a fan of Hella-flush. Arrvaxx and BC416 like this. Last edited by Z1NONLY; 08-13-2014 at 03:38 PM.

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