It is deception, I think..

[ZeeBabar]

Why is it that if you go to the Nissan site and price a 2015 Base coupe, the price is $29990 yet the dealer will never sell it to you at that price, adding a lot of charges from door edges to destination or delivery scharges and on and on.

Samething with Autotrader. Dealers list their 2014 at, say $29850 but when you actually go and ask the out of door price, it is significantly higher and includes all sorts of crappy add-ons?

[kenchan]

order one with no addons, but the destination charge, doc, tax you have to pay on any new car.

[Arrvaxx]

Originally Posted by kenchan

order one with no addons, but the destination charge, doc, tax you have to pay on any new car.

Yeah the other stuff like rust and clear bras and 'what if you get hit by a racoon while it is an eclipse' is all not required.

Whenever you see a price it should include that the price exclusions are at least: tax, title, license, destination.

[kenchan]

Originally Posted by Arrvaxx

Yeah the other stuff like rust and clear bras and 'what if you get hit by a racoon while it is an eclipse' is all not required.

Whenever you see a price it should include that the price exclusions are at least: tax, title, license, destination.

find the invoice price and add like 150 so they can make some margin.
that's your offer.

[mishuko]

also depending on where you are add other taxes on top of your regular sales taxes

[kenchan]

that said, i got the illuminated door sills, wheel locks, splash guards, and the useless cargo carpet thingie for free since i paid invoice on my Z 5yrs ago.

[Limeybastard]

No this is deception. WTF is this anyways??

[14ZTSport]

Originally Posted by Limeybastard

No this is deception. WTF is this anyways??

Must be a nitro shortage?

[grandpawmoses]

As kenchan says, you're not going to get around paying destination, doc, & tax.
But there does seem to be a growing lost art to negotiating the final price in buying a car. Window sticker is retail price while the invoice price the dealer paid is much lower, 5~10% lower, maybe more. Then there is the dealers "kick-back" money he gets from the factory just to keep as much inventory on his lot and not on theirs. Sometimes factories offer rebates but Nissan rarely offers such or cheap financing on the Z models. Supply and demand is everything and "end of the year" discounts are possible when the new year models come out.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here but I've bought many new cars in my time and I've never paid close to retail, even my "out the door" prices were well below sticker. I've made sincere offers only to be giggled at and told no way, walked out, and got home with the phone ringing to come back. I've walked out of two dealerships and had the same offer accepted by a third. I will admit that the more popular the car the tougher it is to get a good deal but if you search this forum you'll read about people getting great deals anyway. I never make the first offer and if you have to trade something in, the internet will let you arm yourself with its trade in value. If I negotiate for and hour and only save $500, I figure I got paid well for my time. Oh, when a dealer adds his extras to the sticker, go somewhere else.

[peleincubus]

People are idiots.

Nitro filled tired is the future in performance.

[Fuzzzy]

Originally Posted by Limeybastard

No this is deception. WTF is this anyways??

That is simply something where you tell the sales person that is off the table immediately or you won't be wasting any more of his time.

[Limeybastard]

Originally Posted by Fuzzzy

That is simply something where you tell the sales person that is off the table immediately or you won't be wasting any more of his time.

Aye, too true. I didnt pay for that shite. Remember I bought the car used with 1500 miles on it in April.

I looked into the key replacement, i think it means if I lose my keys up to five times they replace it for free. As for the roadside dont most new cars or cars under factory warranty have the manufacturers roadside? Mmm Most do except Nissan LOL.

Nitro HAHA bullshite too. I remember when I negotiated my 2013 Mazdaspeed 3 ( was brand new ) it came with a sticker with all that fancy added stuff on it, I didnt pay a penny for them as I had already negotiated the price at the dealers and they had to ship the car from another main dealer.

[cigarclifford]

Originally Posted by grandpawmoses

As kenchan says, you're not going to get around paying destination, doc, & tax.
But there does seem to be a growing lost art to negotiating the final price in buying a car. Window sticker is retail price while the invoice price the dealer paid is much lower, 5~10% lower, maybe more. Then there is the dealers "kick-back" money he gets from the factory just to keep as much inventory on his lot and not on theirs. Sometimes factories offer rebates but Nissan rarely offers such or cheap financing on the Z models. Supply and demand is everything and "end of the year" discounts are possible when the new year models come out.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here but I've bought many new cars in my time and I've never paid close to retail, even my "out the door" prices were well below sticker. I've made sincere offers only to be giggled at and told no way, walked out, and got home with the phone ringing to come back. I've walked out of two dealerships and had the same offer accepted by a third. I will admit that the more popular the car the tougher it is to get a good deal but if you search this forum you'll read about people getting great deals anyway. I never make the first offer and if you have to trade something in, the internet will let you arm yourself with its trade in value. If I negotiate for and hour and only save $500, I figure I got paid well for my time. Oh, when a dealer adds his extras to the sticker, go somewhere else.

Well Said Grandpa Moses.........................

[Felix 808]

True-Car.com... Worked for me

[kenchan]

looks like grandpa one-upped me.