Hellaflush is now... Illegal?!?!

aszyd · 08-13-2014, 03:17 PM

We shouldn't be so happy. Their definition of Hellaflush, while correct, also sounds like it would include ANY lowered vehicles. I would not define my car as hellaflush. I have stock camber and my tires fit the rims, however, I am tucking a little front and rear. A police officer might decide that my car is hellaflush anyways and ticket me, or worse.

Here's the part that I don't like...

Changes to the suspension geometry
The majority of vehicles have lowered anomalies on the adjustment of camber 1 . Indeed, the adjustment of camber is not provided on several vehicle models, making it impossible to align the wheels of the vehicle according to the manufacturer's specifications. To compensate, the suspension has to work outside the range for which it was designed, reducing the handling and stability of the vehicle and the area of contact with the road.
Change the geometry of the suspension of a vehicle reduces its maneuverability and safety. Furthermore, it is prohibited to use components too rigid suspension or insufficient travel. It is also forbidden to modify a vehicle to the point where the tires touch a vehicle component or part of the vehicle body touches the road in normal driving conditions.

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

i'm so happy right now. a thread full of my people. all stance haters aka people with good taste

I do feel pretty bad for that one guy thats gonna show up and be mad about it... And you know its gonna happen. Theres always THAT guy

FPenvy · 08-13-2014, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

you wanna go do karate in the garage??

yes!

FPenvy · 08-13-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

I do feel pretty bad for that one guy thats gonna show up and be mad about it... And you know its gonna happen. Theres always THAT guy

i welcome him. usually i'm THAT guy who goes into stance threads and just destroy them all. at least now i can tag out and let someone else have some fun

speedfreek · 08-13-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

You wanna go do karate in the garage??

Long as you don't touch my drum set. Or I will stab you, in the neck, with a knife!

FPenvy · 08-13-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek

Long as you don't touch my drum set. Or I will stab you, in the neck, with a knife!

yea? well i put my nuts on your drumset!

speedfreek · 08-13-2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

yea? well i put my nuts on your drumset!

I knew it! Top Gear doesn't start til 4!

I do not like the fact of how this can be interpreted if it begins to be adopted and enforced by the states. As any lowered vehicle will likely be targeted as someone else mentioned.

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 03:23 PM

I DIDNT TOUCH YOUR DRUMBSET! Im all sweaty cause i was watching cops

FPenvy · 08-13-2014, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek

I knew it! Top Gear doesn't start til 4!

well played

like the switch from cops to top gear. i like your style.

vividracing · 08-13-2014, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

well played

like the switch from cops to top gear. i like your style.

I was gonna say porn, but thats always on

Arrvaxx · 08-13-2014, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

it's a safety hazard.

i vote for a nationwide ban of stanced cars.

not even a joke.

Hold on...there is no mention of how they are going to define this. Exactly what are the parameters? I would suspect that when it comes down to it what becomes illegal is the high end of the look. Anyone have details?

FPenvy · 08-13-2014, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

I was gonna say porn, but thats always on

iphone bro. always something ready to go.

FPenvy · 08-13-2014, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrvaxx

Hold on...there is no mention of how they are going to define this. Exactly what are the parameters? I would suspect that when it comes down to it what becomes illegal is the high end of the look. Anyone have details?

i think they should appoint me as the national stance advisor.

finally obama would do something AND get it right in his 8 year joke.

i would be fair but firm (giggity) in my stance against stanced vehicles.

Arrvaxx · 08-13-2014, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

i think they should appoint me as the national stance advisor.

finally obama would do something AND get it right in his 8 year joke.

i would be fair but firm (giggity) in my stance against stanced vehicles.

The link is not showing up well on in my browser. It looks like there is a 'more' link and is not working for me. So my question is: How do they define what is illegal?

Z1NONLY · 08-13-2014, 03:36 PM

They need a concrete definition of "unsafe".

If "unsafe" is written into law as "whatever an officer says", then this is a really bad idea.

"Looks stupid", "douche-bag car", "dumb", etc. This is subjective BS that makes for terrible laws.

So I didn't see anything in the article about the definition of what the law says is "unsafe".

...And I am not a fan of Hella-flush.

08-13-2014, 03:17 PM	#16 (permalink)
aszyd Track Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 877 Drives: Magma Red 370z T+S Rep Power: 20	We shouldn't be so happy. Their definition of Hellaflush, while correct, also sounds like it would include ANY lowered vehicles. I would not define my car as hellaflush. I have stock camber and my tires fit the rims, however, I am tucking a little front and rear. A police officer might decide that my car is hellaflush anyways and ticket me, or worse. Here's the part that I don't like... Changes to the suspension geometry The majority of vehicles have lowered anomalies on the adjustment of camber 1 . Indeed, the adjustment of camber is not provided on several vehicle models, making it impossible to align the wheels of the vehicle according to the manufacturer's specifications. To compensate, the suspension has to work outside the range for which it was designed, reducing the handling and stability of the vehicle and the area of contact with the road. Change the geometry of the suspension of a vehicle reduces its maneuverability and safety. Furthermore, it is prohibited to use components too rigid suspension or insufficient travel. It is also forbidden to modify a vehicle to the point where the tires touch a vehicle component or part of the vehicle body touches the road in normal driving conditions. __________________ Competition Clutch\|Fast Intentions\|Maxbore\|NST\|Setrab\|Stillen\|Tomei\|Uprev\| Z1 Avant Garde\|SPC\|Stance\|Whiteline Aerojacket\|Seibon\|Tanabe\|TRS\|TWM

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08-13-2014, 03:36 PM	#30 (permalink)
Z1NONLY Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SW Florida Posts: 355 Drives: 16 FR-S Rep Power: 39	They need a concrete definition of "unsafe". If "unsafe" is written into law as "whatever an officer says", then this is a really bad idea. "Looks stupid", "douche-bag car", "dumb", etc. This is subjective BS that makes for terrible laws. So I didn't see anything in the article about the definition of what the law says is "unsafe". ...And I am not a fan of Hella-flush. Arrvaxx and BC416 like this. Last edited by Z1NONLY; 08-13-2014 at 03:38 PM.

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