My wife said no!

Inspector71

The car is the base model with, I believe the sport package or whatever they call the cosmetic package with air dam or wing across the back. In Jackson County Missouri, I believe the sales tax is 7.35%. The car has no other extras. It has an MSRP slightly above 29K but they want 31K. Now, if they won't come down, do I walk and wait? What I don't like is the idea of losing the car may make me jump when I should wait. You folks are doing me a great service and I really appreciate it. I have been a Mazda man for years, six Rx7s in all and am ready to make the jump. They tried to sell me a 2008 Rx8 much cheaper and then an Altima coupe. I want the Z.

kdo2milger

walk away they are asking over msrp, then let them keep it...

FuszNissan!

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Inspector71

Wow, what a story. I read every post and decided to have a non-confrontational talk with my wife. I told her I had decided it was my decision and she was going to have to live with it. Her concern was that I am 54 and she is 50. This is my second (and last) marriage and we have two wonderful kids, a girl who is 11 and a boy who is 7. She is worried about us taking on more years of debt getting older and having such young children. She knows that as a teacher, I can't last forever. I pointed out that if I retired in 5 years, the SUV would be 8 years old. I will probably go 6 to 11 more years. Somewhere along the way, I'd have to get a new car anyway and the SUV depreciates each year. My SUV is in like new pristine condition, metallic red and loaded.

Inspector71

Wow, that is what I didn't want to read but needed to read. Walk away. When I saw that red car, I had to have it. I didn't tell them this. But when they started the "Let me go back and talk with the manager" and "I tried to get him down but he won't budge" routine, I knew I was being jerked around. Too bad. I will check out Fuz Nissan. As an aside, the salesman was so young I wondered if he was old enough to drive. He was a thin high energy type, on the phone talking with his lawyer because he put "earnest" money down on a house and the realtor wanted to keep it, and telling me he was going to take the money and go on a vacation to Germany. The Internet sales guy was very low key, soft spoken, but gave me the same "Let me talk to the manager" routine.

kdo2milger

ya, sounds like the sales manager doesnt want to budge...

not worth the hassle if you ask me...

Fusz will treat you right!

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Inspector71

Thanks a million. I had the terms wrong. Maybe its because I am beat from fighting some kind of sinus deal. Anyway, it is McCarthy Nissan in Blue Springs Missouri, it is the base model with the spoiler. No other options (kind of a cheap radio too), six speed, and fast. The color is red and interior charcoal? Thanks for the help. I sure wish I had the car.

Inspector71

I am going to owe all of you big time. The sales guy was saying 35K which is 2 grand more than you came up with. They also said 8.3% on the loan. I wonder how much difference it would make on the payment if they lowered the price by 2 grand, maybe $25?

I went on the Fusz website. They have Z's but the cheapest one starts at 32K and they go up from there. How willing are they to "deal?"

Caravanshaka

check with penfed, they do 6 year loans for 4.25% or 4.75% I think, 5 year for 3.99%. Takes $25 to become a member and the loan app process is pretty easy online. I was approved in 10 mins and had the check overnighted and got my car the next day.

Then, if you have financing taken care of outside the dealer, you walk in and tell them you will sign today if they sell you the car for invoice, have them bring you the invoice paperwork to show they are truly giving you invoice. no negotiating payment terms with them, you know what you are actually paying for the car, and penfed will give you the monthly payment estimate.

go to New Cars, Used Cars, Car Reviews and Pricing - Edmunds.com and look up the Z and price it with options and you can compare exact MSRP and exact invoice. BTW, I forgot that number above doesn't have destination fee added in, so add that to the number as well.

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Inspector71

Sorry to pester you with so many questions, but if I get my own loan, how does the two trade ins work?

ZKindaGuy

Good for you John!!! It's nice to see that some Z-drivers don't have to masquerade as men around here because they still are men! Again...good for you!!!

Caravanshaka

what dealership and what color is it? 29k won't include the sports package but it might have a spoiler. If you give the dealership I can see the car and double check the options

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