My wife said no!

kdo2milger · 09-17-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspector71

Thanks for all the help. When you say invoice, do you mean the msrp or the final sticker? The paper in the window has an msrp of 29K+. The final price is 31K+. They want to give me 20K for my SUV and 1K for the 86 Rx7. They came up with a price of 35K for the Z based on the payoff difference on the SUV (I owe 25,600). I figure they are adding the 6 grand payoff difference to the Z, discounting 1 grand for my Mazda, which comes out to 36 grand. Then they must have discounted the Z 1 grand. Would you go for this? I thought they should come down 2 grand more. What do you think? Right now they are offering a payment of $554. Again, I am close.

not to throw a monkey wrench in the mix but have you talked with FuszNissan yet?

he still has z's in stock according to this and he isnt far from you i dont think...

370 Inventory (Located in Midwest)

Caravanshaka · 09-17-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

not to throw a monkey wrench in the mix but have you talked with FuszNissan yet?

he still has z's in stock according to this and he isnt far from you i dont think...

370 Inventory (Located in Midwest)

Fusz will hook you up. If he doesn't then I will make him give me his twin turbo'd Z in exchange!!

kdo2milger · 09-17-2009, 08:48 AM

less than a 4 hour drive east on hwy 70

John Bradley · 09-17-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

Yea..grow a pair.....If you let her handle the monet then you are a fool....First off let me say nowhere...and I mean nowhere does it say anywhere that the guy has to give his wife the paycheck or let her handle the financial responsibilities in a marriage.

When I got married 14 years ago my wife said she would take care of being the bill payment maker in the household. I told her that I was perfectly capable of doing that job myself. I told her in no uncertain terms that I was NOT going to be handing her my paychecks as I earned and I will pay the household bills. I then turned around and also stated that I expect to receive from her every paycheck of hers that fraction of money out of each of her paychecks relative to our respective earnings.

When I bought the 1997 Cobra Mustang she didn't say anything. A year later I bought her a new van she wanted. After two years she began make noise about the Cobra. I eventually sold it ti shut her mouth up. I bought an XTerra at that time. After 3 years in the XTerra I saw the new (at that time) 2003 Mustang Cobra with the stock blower. I mentioned it to her and she said "NO". I turned right around that next weekend and went out and traded the XTerra and bought the 2003 Cobra Mustang and laid $4000 down.

I brought it home and she blew her top. I proceded to to her that the first time she bitched, moaned and groaned over the 1997 Cobra, I got rid of it much to my consternation. I said that I didn't want to hear a damn thing about the 2003 Cobra because if she does this time she is the one whom I am going to put out the door.

She said I wouldn't dare...and I came right back and said watch me. I then told her that I raised 5 kids of hers without an ounce of child support coming in from her ex. I also stated that I had a new 2000 sq-foot house built for us and all new furniture for the entire new house. I have made sure that all bills have been paid and food on the table. And I am the one that bought her a 2006 XTerra to replaced the aged van. And I was able to do all that by working my damn *** off since the day we got married.

I then told her there will never be a day in this marriage where she will ever say to me again NO when I want something for myself because I sure as hell earned every damn penny of it and then some.

She made some grumbles when I bought my 370Z but all I said to her was remember what I told you several years ago...I reminder her to not even make the mistake of thinking I wouldn't put her out.

My paycheck is my money...I worked for it...I earned it....I'm the one that paid for my entire college and graduated with a degree so I could make better money back in the 70's while she was out spreading her legs and having 5 kids by 2 other men - the kids I all ended up raising in those 14 years. So I'm the one who is going to control how it gets spent....because I did my g-damn time!!!!

Wow.. I can't believe SHE stayed with you this long !!!

fuct · 09-17-2009, 09:09 AM

good luck inspector....

this thread made me feel good about not being married! thx guys!

kdo2milger · 09-17-2009, 09:10 AM

one thing i see wrong with the current deal you got with that dealer is if they arent willing to come off msrp then they arent worth messing with...

FuszNissan is less than 4 hours from you and he will do better...

another good thing to get out of going to St L is making a day trip out of it, taking the wifey site seeing, and light lunch or early dinner then head back home...or better yet spend the night in a 4 star hotel over looking the city...if your ole lady is into that sort of thing...helps her feel better about the whole deal too...

Inspector71 · 09-17-2009, 09:14 AM

The car is the base model with, I believe the sport package or whatever they call the cosmetic package with air dam or wing across the back. In Jackson County Missouri, I believe the sales tax is 7.35%. The car has no other extras. It has an MSRP slightly above 29K but they want 31K. Now, if they won't come down, do I walk and wait? What I don't like is the idea of losing the car may make me jump when I should wait. You folks are doing me a great service and I really appreciate it. I have been a Mazda man for years, six Rx7s in all and am ready to make the jump. They tried to sell me a 2008 Rx8 much cheaper and then an Altima coupe. I want the Z.

kdo2milger · 09-17-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspector71

The car is the base model with, I believe the sport package or whatever they call the cosmetic package with air dam or wing across the back. In Jackson County Missouri, I believe the sales tax is 7.35%. The car has no other extras. It has an MSRP slightly above 29K but they want 31K. Now, if they won't come down, do I walk and wait? What I don't like is the idea of losing the car may make me jump when I should wait. You folks are doing me a great service and I really appreciate it. I have been a Mazda man for years, six Rx7s in all and am ready to make the jump. They tried to sell me a 2008 Rx8 much cheaper and then an Altima coupe. I want the Z.

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

one thing i see wrong with the current deal you got with that dealer is if they arent willing to come off msrp then they arent worth messing with...

FuszNissan is less than 4 hours from you and he will do better...

another good thing to get out of going to St L is making a day trip out of it, taking the wifey site seeing, and light lunch or early dinner then head back home...or better yet spend the night in a 4 star hotel over looking the city...if your ole lady is into that sort of thing...helps her feel better about the whole deal too...

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Originally Posted by Caravanshaka

Fusz will hook you up. If he doesn't then I will make him give me his twin turbo'd Z in exchange!!

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

less than a 4 hour drive east on hwy 70

walk away

they are asking over msrp, then let them keep it...

FuszNissan!

Inspector71 · 09-17-2009, 09:18 AM

Wow, what a story. I read every post and decided to have a non-confrontational talk with my wife. I told her I had decided it was my decision and she was going to have to live with it. Her concern was that I am 54 and she is 50. This is my second (and last) marriage and we have two wonderful kids, a girl who is 11 and a boy who is 7. She is worried about us taking on more years of debt getting older and having such young children. She knows that as a teacher, I can't last forever. I pointed out that if I retired in 5 years, the SUV would be 8 years old. I will probably go 6 to 11 more years. Somewhere along the way, I'd have to get a new car anyway and the SUV depreciates each year. My SUV is in like new pristine condition, metallic red and loaded.

Caravanshaka · 09-17-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspector71

The car is the base model with, I believe the sport package or whatever they call the cosmetic package with air dam or wing across the back. In Jackson County Missouri, I believe the sales tax is 7.35%. The car has no other extras. It has an MSRP slightly above 29K but they want 31K. Now, if they won't come down, do I walk and wait? What I don't like is the idea of losing the car may make me jump when I should wait. You folks are doing me a great service and I really appreciate it. I have been a Mazda man for years, six Rx7s in all and am ready to make the jump. They tried to sell me a 2008 Rx8 much cheaper and then an Altima coupe. I want the Z.

what dealership and what color is it? 29k won't include the sports package but it might have a spoiler. If you give the dealership I can see the car and double check the options

Inspector71 · 09-17-2009, 09:24 AM

Wow, that is what I didn't want to read but needed to read. Walk away. When I saw that red car, I had to have it. I didn't tell them this. But when they started the "Let me go back and talk with the manager" and "I tried to get him down but he won't budge" routine, I knew I was being jerked around. Too bad. I will check out Fuz Nissan. As an aside, the salesman was so young I wondered if he was old enough to drive. He was a thin high energy type, on the phone talking with his lawyer because he put "earnest" money down on a house and the realtor wanted to keep it, and telling me he was going to take the money and go on a vacation to Germany. The Internet sales guy was very low key, soft spoken, but gave me the same "Let me talk to the manager" routine.

Caravanshaka · 09-17-2009, 09:28 AM

Assuming you were looking at a Base+aero, the MSRP would be about 30,600...invoice would be 28,500. add in the 5k you still owe on the pathfinder and subtract the rx7 and you should be about 32,500-33,000+tt&l. Don't pay a cent over that!

Fusz is a Z enthusiast and a good guy. He knows the business and will do anything he can to help a fellow Z enthusiast out with a purchase. I think you will find your experience with him is 10x better than a random dealership.

kdo2milger · 09-17-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspector71

Wow, that is what I didn't want to read but needed to read. Walk away. When I saw that red car, I had to have it. I didn't tell them this. But when they started the "Let me go back and talk with the manager" and "I tried to get him down but he won't budge" routine, I knew I was being jerked around. Too bad. I will check out Fuz Nissan. As an aside, the salesman was so young I wondered if he was old enough to drive. He was a thin high energy type, on the phone talking with his lawyer because he put "earnest" money down on a house and the realtor wanted to keep it, and telling me he was going to take the money and go on a vacation to Germany. The Internet sales guy was very low key, soft spoken, but gave me the same "Let me talk to the manager" routine.

ya, sounds like the sales manager doesnt want to budge...

not worth the hassle if you ask me...

Fusz will treat you right!

Inspector71 · 09-17-2009, 09:45 AM

Thanks a million. I had the terms wrong. Maybe its because I am beat from fighting some kind of sinus deal. Anyway, it is McCarthy Nissan in Blue Springs Missouri, it is the base model with the spoiler. No other options (kind of a cheap radio too), six speed, and fast. The color is red and interior charcoal? Thanks for the help. I sure wish I had the car.

Inspector71 · 09-17-2009, 09:48 AM

I am going to owe all of you big time. The sales guy was saying 35K which is 2 grand more than you came up with. They also said 8.3% on the loan. I wonder how much difference it would make on the payment if they lowered the price by 2 grand, maybe $25?

I went on the Fusz website. They have Z's but the cheapest one starts at 32K and they go up from there. How willing are they to "deal?"

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09-17-2009, 09:10 AM	#156 (permalink)
kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 59	Inspector71 one thing i see wrong with the current deal you got with that dealer is if they arent willing to come off msrp then they arent worth messing with... FuszNissan is less than 4 hours from you and he will do better... another good thing to get out of going to St L is making a day trip out of it, taking the wifey site seeing, and light lunch or early dinner then head back home...or better yet spend the night in a 4 star hotel over looking the city...if your ole lady is into that sort of thing...helps her feel better about the whole deal too... __________________ Project *NISMO*

09-17-2009, 09:14 AM	#157 (permalink)
Inspector71 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Missouri Posts: 337 Drives: 2015 Pearl White Z Rep Power: 15	Thanks for the help The car is the base model with, I believe the sport package or whatever they call the cosmetic package with air dam or wing across the back. In Jackson County Missouri, I believe the sales tax is 7.35%. The car has no other extras. It has an MSRP slightly above 29K but they want 31K. Now, if they won't come down, do I walk and wait? What I don't like is the idea of losing the car may make me jump when I should wait. You folks are doing me a great service and I really appreciate it. I have been a Mazda man for years, six Rx7s in all and am ready to make the jump. They tried to sell me a 2008 Rx8 much cheaper and then an Altima coupe. I want the Z.

09-17-2009, 09:18 AM	#159 (permalink)
Inspector71 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Missouri Posts: 337 Drives: 2015 Pearl White Z Rep Power: 15	John Bradley Wow, what a story. I read every post and decided to have a non-confrontational talk with my wife. I told her I had decided it was my decision and she was going to have to live with it. Her concern was that I am 54 and she is 50. This is my second (and last) marriage and we have two wonderful kids, a girl who is 11 and a boy who is 7. She is worried about us taking on more years of debt getting older and having such young children. She knows that as a teacher, I can't last forever. I pointed out that if I retired in 5 years, the SUV would be 8 years old. I will probably go 6 to 11 more years. Somewhere along the way, I'd have to get a new car anyway and the SUV depreciates each year. My SUV is in like new pristine condition, metallic red and loaded.

09-17-2009, 09:24 AM	#161 (permalink)
Inspector71 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Missouri Posts: 337 Drives: 2015 Pearl White Z Rep Power: 15	kdo2milger Wow, that is what I didn't want to read but needed to read. Walk away. When I saw that red car, I had to have it. I didn't tell them this. But when they started the "Let me go back and talk with the manager" and "I tried to get him down but he won't budge" routine, I knew I was being jerked around. Too bad. I will check out Fuz Nissan. As an aside, the salesman was so young I wondered if he was old enough to drive. He was a thin high energy type, on the phone talking with his lawyer because he put "earnest" money down on a house and the realtor wanted to keep it, and telling me he was going to take the money and go on a vacation to Germany. The Internet sales guy was very low key, soft spoken, but gave me the same "Let me talk to the manager" routine.

09-17-2009, 09:09 AM	#155 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 23	good luck inspector.... this thread made me feel good about not being married! thx guys!

09-17-2009, 09:28 AM	#162 (permalink)
Caravanshaka I shake Caravans Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: north Dallas Posts: 9,517 Drives: everyone crazy Rep Power: 42	Assuming you were looking at a Base+aero, the MSRP would be about 30,600...invoice would be 28,500. add in the 5k you still owe on the pathfinder and subtract the rx7 and you should be about 32,500-33,000+tt&l. Don't pay a cent over that! Fusz is a Z enthusiast and a good guy. He knows the business and will do anything he can to help a fellow Z enthusiast out with a purchase. I think you will find your experience with him is 10x better than a random dealership. __________________ ____________________ PROJECT DiaD - Sold but not forgotten! The first testicular guard, the "Cup," was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. That means it only took 100 years for men to realize that in order to work the penis, the brain must remain whole.

09-17-2009, 09:45 AM	#164 (permalink)
Inspector71 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Missouri Posts: 337 Drives: 2015 Pearl White Z Rep Power: 15	Caravanshaka Thanks a million. I had the terms wrong. Maybe its because I am beat from fighting some kind of sinus deal. Anyway, it is McCarthy Nissan in Blue Springs Missouri, it is the base model with the spoiler. No other options (kind of a cheap radio too), six speed, and fast. The color is red and interior charcoal? Thanks for the help. I sure wish I had the car.

09-17-2009, 09:48 AM	#165 (permalink)
Inspector71 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Missouri Posts: 337 Drives: 2015 Pearl White Z Rep Power: 15	Caravanshaka I am going to owe all of you big time. The sales guy was saying 35K which is 2 grand more than you came up with. They also said 8.3% on the loan. I wonder how much difference it would make on the payment if they lowered the price by 2 grand, maybe $25? I went on the Fusz website. They have Z's but the cheapest one starts at 32K and they go up from there. How willing are they to "deal?" Last edited by Inspector71; 09-17-2009 at 10:03 AM.

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