Priced a clutch replacement today :facepalm:

[Nismodean]

Dealership and other places are quoting $2800-$3000! I have NEVER been quoted so high for a clutch replacement before! Car has 63,000 miles and they're telling me that the dual mass flywheel ($1200) needs to be replaced too. WTF is that thing made out of? Recycled coke can aluminum!? I'm seriously considering just buying a clutch/flywheel combo and installing it myself on the base garage (military) over the weekend.

I just want to know if a lightened flywheel screws with the rev match system or should I go with a stock weight flywheel?

/end rant

[FairladyZ40th]

Originally Posted by Nismodean

Dealership and other places are quoting $2800-$3000! I have NEVER been quoted so high for a clutch replacement before! Car has 63,000 miles and they're telling me that the dual mass flywheel ($1200) needs to be replaced too. WTF is that thing made out of? Recycled coke can aluminum!? I'm seriously considering just buying a clutch/flywheel combo and installing it myself on the base garage (military) over the weekend.



I just want to know if a lightened flywheel screws with the rev match system or should I go with a stock weight flywheel?



/end rant

A lightweight shouldn't mess with the system all that much. I installed one without doing a tuning and the car drove great.

Further, I don't suggest depending on the rev match. I only use it to race and that's it, I rev match my own gears even though I have rev match equipped. Lastly, should you get a combo kit: 1. do not cheap out on it, 2. Get a tuning done OR get a couple other upgrades and then tune. (Don't forget to mention you have a lightweight flywheel) 3. There's a lot of discussions on good clutch kits in this forum and suggestions for fluids etc. take a poke around

Hope the little knowledge helps brother and never trust or do work at the stealer ship. If you have a trusted mech or you're a mech your self then the best thing to do is to do your own work. That way you'll never be wondering if the other mechs are messing with your ride or over charging etc.

(personally I don't like anymore because the computer tries to predict every move you make and sometimes I accidentally move the manual to a different gear and the car over revs its self).


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[SS_Firehawk]

Rev matching saves your clutch from undue stress. I recommend you take advantage of it. It also makes rev matching react faster, it loves that $hit. I had a 14lbs flywheel and its outstanding. You're better off buying an aftermarket clutch and flywheel. And while you're at it, toss the stock CSC in the trash and buy an upgraded HD CSC.

[FairladyZ40th]

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Rev matching saves your clutch from undue stress. I recommend you take advantage of it. It also makes rec matching react faster, it lives that $hit. I had a 14lbs flywheel and its outstanding. You're better off buying an aftermarket clutch and flywheel. And while you're at it, toss the stock CSC in the trash and buy an upgraded HD CSC.

One can rev match their own engine w/o the help of a computer. It's just a tap of the gas, bruh.

I also do agree with the HD CSC. HOWEVER!!! Better yet I'd do the Z1motorsports.com CSC ELIMINATION KIT.
It's much much better. It'll eliminate CSC issues completely and gives you the traditional clutch feel.


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[imjello]

You can't cut the oem flywheel from what I read, that's why they are charging you for a new. Some lightweight flywheels chatter, do to they are single and lighter. Just FYI, incase you dislike that sound

Is your clutch slipping?

[Nismodean]

I'm considering either the Z1 or the JWT clutch/flywheel combo. I would like your experience with either if you have it please.

I had to replace the CSC 10,000 miles ago so I really don't want to go through that again if possible. The HD CSC requires modification (granted only 10 minutes worth) and the elimination kit has only been out a short period of time that I'm aware of. I know it has been tested on the track and that's great and all but longevity hasn't been ascertained IMHO yet and you have to more than likely adjust every now and then (do you need a lift for that every time?) as the clutch wears down.

Any experiences with the previously mentioned clutch/flywheel kits, HD CSC, and CSC elimination kit would be greatly appreciated as well as a good source of info for other people.

[Firebase99]

That's insane. I did it my old 350z, ordered aftermarket had my guy do it-was about $900 total.

[Z_ealot]

Originally Posted by Nismodean

I'm considering either the Z1 or the JWT clutch/flywheel combo. I would like your experience with either if you have it please.

I had to replace the CSC 10,000 miles ago so I really don't want to go through that again if possible. The HD CSC requires modification (granted only 10 minutes worth) and the elimination kit has only been out a short period of time that I'm aware of. I know it has been tested on the track and that's great and all but longevity hasn't been ascertained IMHO yet and you have to more than likely adjust every now and then (do you need a lift for that every time?) as the clutch wears down.

Any experiences with the previously mentioned clutch/flywheel kits, HD CSC, and CSC elimination kit would be greatly appreciated as well as a good source of info for other people.

Can't comment on the jwt clutch, but i do have their flywheel and love it. A little on the noisy side, but once you learn how to best engage the clutch it isnt all that much more noisy than the stock flywheel. One of the other benefits to it is that when you get ready to replace the clutch again after installing it the first time, the friction plate is replaceable and costs $65

[Z-Girl 12]

OP crap that is a butt load of money. GL with researching an alternative.

[FairladyZ40th]

Originally Posted by Nismodean

I'm considering either the Z1 or the JWT clutch/flywheel combo. I would like your experience with either if you have it please.

I had to replace the CSC 10,000 miles ago so I really don't want to go through that again if possible. The HD CSC requires modification (granted only 10 minutes worth) and the elimination kit has only been out a short period of time that I'm aware of. I know it has been tested on the track and that's great and all but longevity hasn't been ascertained IMHO yet and you have to more than likely adjust every now and then (do you need a lift for that every time?) as the clutch wears down.

Any experiences with the previously mentioned clutch/flywheel kits, HD CSC, and CSC elimination kit would be greatly appreciated as well as a good source of info for other people.

There's a thread on the HD CSC. It WILL still give you the same problem just simply takes longer for it to go bad again. Also, if you'd like more on the elimination kit I'd suggest talking to birdman he just got his done not too long ago. I'll post a link in a few for his build.


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[KngScottieV]

Also from what I've read here on the forums the only thing that seems to screw up the rev matching is if you change your final gears. Because the wheel speed is different for a given RPM than what the computer is used to calculating and it throws it off.

[axmea?]

I performed a simple function........



......and came up with these. Good luck on your mod. Expect performance and noise.

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http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...srm-issues.htm

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Lightweight flywheels and SyncroRev Match

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lightweight flywheel good or bad?

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S-Mode Warning Light after new Southbend Clutch/Flywheel installed

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th

There's a thread on the HD CSC. It WILL still give you the same problem just simply takes longer for it to go bad again. Also, if you'd like more on the elimination kit I'd suggest talking to birdman he just got his done not too long ago. I'll post a link in a few for his build.


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That's not true at all. The only time you need to worry about the HD CSC is if you pair it with a Spec clutch.

[DEpointfive0]

Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th

There's a thread on the HD CSC. It WILL still give you the same problem just simply takes longer for it to go bad again. Also, if you'd like more on the elimination kit I'd suggest talking to birdman he just got his done not too long ago. I'll post a link in a few for his build.


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I don't know about that... The HD CSC is metal compared to crap plastic that breaks...

I'd like to say the HD CSC failure rate is around... .01% (1/1000) but it's probably a LOT less.
I'd go HD CSC from Joe @ ZSpeed because it keeps the OEM system in tact. And Joe is awesome... And there's nothing to worry about during install/no adjustments as your clutch wears.

[birdman71]

You can either do the hd csc or do the z1 elimination kit for the csc. I went with an ACT clutch flywheel and pressure plate and z1 elim kit. Runs great now and only paid about $2k for parts and labor.
I wouldnt suggest doing the install yourself unless you KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING... IN AND OUT BACKWARDS ANS FORWARDS.

The guys at my shop told me straight up that the csc elim kit was a F'IN BITCHH..

Just some more feedback. Just dont go to the dealership lol.