Should I be mad?

FairladyZ · 03-21-2013, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

If you are talking about the RE-050A, dismounting them and then switching the tires side to side (i.e. the left tire is now on the right side) , this is a very bad idea. Performance tires, including this one, have an "inside" and "outside". By swapping them side to side, even if you un-mount and remount to keep the same rotational direction, you now have both tires running "inside-out" and you will have handling issues.

Enough of that -- good luck!!!

It reminds me of my Dad chastising me when I was rebuilding my first Datsun head (a 510) and I was trying to save a few bucks by reusing a gasket or two. "False economy" he called it.

That's what I was thinking..

The tires are marked outside and inside ...

gpolak · 03-21-2013, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Performance tires, including this one, have an "inside" and "outside". By swapping them side to side, even if you un-mount and remount to keep the same rotational direction, you now have both tires running "inside-out" and you will have handling issues.

Not ALL performance tires, but yes, the stock Bridgestones do. Something like the Dunlop Direzzas are symmetrical and can be swapped left-right. But you have to actually change the tire and not just rotate the wheels since they're still directional.

DEpointfive0 · 03-21-2013, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ

That's what I was thinking..

The tires are marked outside and inside ...

I never had stock Bridgestones, so I have no idea, I'm pretty sure my tires have a direction, not an inside/outside

That's why I flip flopped them

forza370z · 03-22-2013, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

If you are talking about the RE-050A, dismounting them and then switching the tires side to side (i.e. the left tire is now on the right side) , this is a very bad idea. Performance tires, including this one, have an "inside" and "outside". By swapping them side to side, even if you un-mount and remount to keep the same rotational direction, you now have both tires running "inside-out" and you will have handling issues.

Enough of that -- good luck!!!

It reminds me of my Dad chastising me when I was rebuilding my first Datsun head (a 510) and I was trying to save a few bucks by reusing a gasket or two. "False economy" he called it.

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Originally Posted by gpolak

Not ALL performance tires, but yes, the stock Bridgestones do. Something like the Dunlop Direzzas are symmetrical and can be swapped left-right. But you have to actually change the tire and not just rotate the wheels since they're still directional.

Correct. If the tire has asymmetric tread, switch them left to right is an bad idea. And yes, the RE-050A has asymmetric tread as well as my old Yokohama ADVAN Sport tires. But not all the performence tires are asymmetric. Hankook v12 and Falken FK452 as examples. So check the tire spec before doing the tire rotation.

raymondo510 · 03-22-2013, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Oh, and you've gotta be a sucker to buy tires from a dealershit

onzedge · 03-22-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by gpolak

Not ALL performance tires, but yes, the stock Bridgestones do. Something like the Dunlop Direzzas are symmetrical and can be swapped left-right. But you have to actually change the tire and not just rotate the wheels since they're still directional.

Right -- I should have written "most" performance tires or been more specific about "assymetrical" tires and the risks associated with not mounting these type of tires correctly.

Thanks, man.

onzedge · 03-22-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by forza370z

Correct. If the tire has asymmetric tread, switch them left to right is an bad idea. And yes, the RE-050A has asymmetric tread as well as my old Yokohama ADVAN Sport tires. But not all the performence tires are asymmetric. Hankook v12 and Falken FK452 as examples. So check the tire spec before doing the tire rotation.

Good point.

6MT · 03-22-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Highway

I just had my steering lock recall done today.They ended up doing that and they took care of that and some update for the Nav....and now my new issue with the dealership...

I'm semi-pissed because they drove the car for 4 miles afterwards. Tried finding out why they needed to do a test drive for these 2 things and didn't get a straight answer. They also are saying that I now need new rear tires when my car has just 15k miles and I never really drive it hard. They just happen to have a gently used set in stock that I could get at discount.

Trying to find out if it's normal for them to do a test drive after doing the steering lock replacement?

Convenient for the dealership to let you know that they have some gently used tires that can get you out of the absolute bind you're in. Your car must be undriveable because of the rear tire situation.

that's sarcasm, if you didn't know

Jack370Z · 03-22-2013, 10:31 AM

You did say the dealer not only did the steering lock but a Nav upgrade, right? Maybe the 4 miles was to make sure the Nav was working properly after the upgrade..? Just a thought.

Fountainhead · 03-22-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack370Z

You did say the dealer not only did the steering lock but a Nav upgrade, right? Maybe the 4 miles was to make sure the Nav was working properly after the upgrade..? Just a thought.

Yeah that is a very good point. Just pray it wasn't 4 miles of hell.

JohnsZ · 03-22-2013, 01:14 PM

Speaking from someone who went nuts because the car jockey at the dealership I used to go to needed to adjust my driver seat, I have to say that if I saw that the my Z was driven 4 miles, I would be pissed. The fact that they could not give you a good answer when you asked them about it makes me even more suspicious. I'm trying to think why they needed to do an update on the Nav in the first place but I guess that's another issue. The Z would be a tempting car for some tech to want to take it for a "test drive" to the local Dunkin Donuts. I'm sure it happens more times than not and if I had a piece of crap car, I wouldn't care. But not my Z. I would send the Service Mgr an email or call them to let that know that you have a concern over this and let them explain to your satisfaction why they needed to drive the car for 4 miles. By the way, since my issue with a dealership regarding my seat issue, I have not returned there and have found another Nissan Dealership that I trust. I am paying them, they need to gain my trust so that I return. If that doesn't happen, there are plenty of other reputable shops and Dealerships around that would love to have my money.

dawudih · 03-22-2013, 01:18 PM

You'll always need something if you go to the dealership. I needed new atf after 15k, then at 20k it was somehow fine???

JohnsZ · 03-22-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Highway

I just had my steering lock recall done today.They ended up doing that and they took care of that and some update for the Nav....and now my new issue with the dealership...

I'm semi-pissed because they drove the car for 4 miles afterwards. Tried finding out why they needed to do a test drive for these 2 things and didn't get a straight answer. They also are saying that I now need new rear tires when my car has just 15k miles and I never really drive it hard. They just happen to have a gently used set in stock that I could get at discount.

Trying to find out if it's normal for them to do a test drive after doing the steering lock replacement?

BTW.....I LOVE the PW Roadster, and with Nav too!!! AWESOME

RonZwanson · 03-22-2013, 02:13 PM

I'd be pretty cheesed.

Every time I drop my car off for a service, no matter where it is, I take a picture of the odometer, gas gauge, and mpg meter. So far I've had no issues, but if I ever do I'll have proof.

The Nav test is feasible, but I doubt it. Did they tell you what it entailed? I would think it would just be a map update, and I don't think they'd be able to confirm its validity in four miles (given that most car dealerships I've seen aren't located in new housing developments or along reconstructed highways).

cheshirecat · 03-22-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnsZ

Speaking from someone who went nuts because the car jockey at the dealership I used to go to needed to adjust my driver seat, I have to say that if I saw that the my Z was driven 4 miles, I would be pissed. The fact that they could not give you a good answer when you asked them about it makes me even more suspicious. I'm trying to think why they needed to do an update on the Nav in the first place but I guess that's another issue. The Z would be a tempting car for some tech to want to take it for a "test drive" to the local Dunkin Donuts. I'm sure it happens more times than not and if I had a piece of crap car, I wouldn't care. But not my Z. I would send the Service Mgr an email or call them to let that know that you have a concern over this and let them explain to your satisfaction why they needed to drive the car for 4 miles. By the way, since my issue with a dealership regarding my seat issue, I have not returned there and have found another Nissan Dealership that I trust. I am paying them, they need to gain my trust so that I return. If that doesn't happen, there are plenty of other reputable shops and Dealerships around that would love to have my money.

The person you talk to isn't necessarily the tech who did the work. There may have been a completely valid reason for the test drive and there may have been a completely valid reason for the service manager not to know (or care) as it could be standard practice at that dealership.

My car was in for an engine swap. I got it back with 30 miles more on it. Who cares. The car was fine. Take receipt of the vehicle and enjoy it.

03-22-2013, 10:31 AM	#24 (permalink)
Jack370Z Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 128 Drives: 09 370Z Plat SP 6MT Rep Power: 15	You did say the dealer not only did the steering lock but a Nav upgrade, right? Maybe the 4 miles was to make sure the Nav was working properly after the upgrade..? Just a thought. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ Jack 09 370Z

03-22-2013, 02:13 PM	#29 (permalink)
RonZwanson Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 130 Drives: 2009 Black MT Sport Rep Power: 13	I'd be pretty cheesed. Every time I drop my car off for a service, no matter where it is, I take a picture of the odometer, gas gauge, and mpg meter. So far I've had no issues, but if I ever do I'll have proof. The Nav test is feasible, but I doubt it. Did they tell you what it entailed? I would think it would just be a map update, and I don't think they'd be able to confirm its validity in four miles (given that most car dealerships I've seen aren't located in new housing developments or along reconstructed highways). __________________ It's a racing hen!

03-22-2013, 01:14 PM	#26 (permalink)
JohnsZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 374 Drives: '09 370Z Tour CY M6 Rep Power: 14	Speaking from someone who went nuts because the car jockey at the dealership I used to go to needed to adjust my driver seat, I have to say that if I saw that the my Z was driven 4 miles, I would be pissed. The fact that they could not give you a good answer when you asked them about it makes me even more suspicious. I'm trying to think why they needed to do an update on the Nav in the first place but I guess that's another issue. The Z would be a tempting car for some tech to want to take it for a "test drive" to the local Dunkin Donuts. I'm sure it happens more times than not and if I had a piece of crap car, I wouldn't care. But not my Z. I would send the Service Mgr an email or call them to let that know that you have a concern over this and let them explain to your satisfaction why they needed to drive the car for 4 miles. By the way, since my issue with a dealership regarding my seat issue, I have not returned there and have found another Nissan Dealership that I trust. I am paying them, they need to gain my trust so that I return. If that doesn't happen, there are plenty of other reputable shops and Dealerships around that would love to have my money.

03-22-2013, 01:18 PM	#27 (permalink)
dawudih Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Katy, TX Age: 49 Posts: 93 Drives: 2011 370z auto Rep Power: 14	You'll always need something if you go to the dealership. I needed new atf after 15k, then at 20k it was somehow fine???