Swift or H&R - camber kit necessary?

[Kayzee]

So I read through the whole 9 page thread talking about H&R and swift springs mostly...

What i gathered so far is that..

Swift:
-less drop (in the front)
-higher quality ride
-less body roll

H&R:
-a little more drop in the front
-ride quality ???? not a single commentary
-body roll and performance - not as great as swift


So besides the question of ... how does the z feel on the H&Rs, do we need a camber kit? I would like to go lower with the H&Rs as i do not track the car and the aesthetic purpose by far overrides performance for me where I live, however if without a camber kit this is not doable the whole price jumps up 2-3x that of swift.. and swift becomes much more desirable then